Kate Moss: I know the truth about Johnny Depp and I had to speak out

Kate Moss
Kate Moss

Supermodel Kate Moss has defended her decision to support Johnny Depp in his libel trial against ex-wife Amber Heard, saying she had to “say [the] truth” about the actor.

Moss, 48, testified to the Virginia courtroom in May via video link from Gloucestershire, refuting one of the accusations against Depp, who she was in a relationship with from 1994 to 1998.

Speaking to Lauren Laverne on the BBC’s Desert Island Discs, she said: “I know the truth about Johnny. I know he never kicked me down the stairs. I had to say that truth.”

In the two-minute long evidence, she told the jury that allegations surfaced by Ms Heard that Mr Depp had pushed her down the stairs at the GoldenEye resort in Jamaica were false, and he had in fact tried to help her.

“We were leaving the room and Johnny left the room before I did and there had been a rainstorm,” she told the court.

“As I left the room I slid down the stairs and I hurt my back and I screamed because I didn’t know what had happened to me.

“[Mr Depp] came running back to help me and carried me to my room and got me medical attention.”

During the BBC interview, she also defended the Spanish fashion designer John Galliano, who was given a €6,000 (£5,000) suspended fine in 2011 for racial abuse after launching into offensive diatribes in a Paris bar.

Moss said: “I believe in the truth and I believe in fairness and justice.

“I know that John Galliano is not a bad person - he had an alcohol problem and people turn.

“People aren’t themselves when they drink and they say things that they would never say if they were sober.”

During the interview, Moss also spoke about difficult times she had had during her career when she was pushed to pose semi-clothed.

“I had a horrible experience for a bra catalogue. I was probably only 15 and he said: ‘Take your top off’, and I took my top off.

“And he said: ‘Take your bra off’, and I could feel there was something wrong so I got my stuff and I ran away.”

Ms Moss and Mr Depp in 1995 - Barry King/WireImage
Ms Moss and Mr Depp in 1995 - Barry King/WireImage

She said that she had also had another uncomfortable photo shoot with the late photographer Corinne Day, who is frequently credited with having discovered the model.

Moss said that remembering her 16-year-old self at the 1990 photoshoot in Camber Sands, East Sussex was “painful”.

She said: “I didn’t want to take my top off. I was really, really self-conscious about my body and [Day] would say, ‘If you don’t take your top off I am not going to book you for Elle’, and I would cry.

“It is painful because she was my best friend and I really loved her - but she was a very tricky person to work with.

“But you know, the pictures are amazing so she got what she wanted and I suffered for them, but in the end they did me a world of good really. They did change my career.”

She also mentioned a 1992 photoshoot for Calvin Klein in which she appeared with the actor Mark Wahlberg. She said she felt “vulnerable and scared” about posing topless, and had taken Valium before the shoot to soothe her nerves.

Moss also complained that she had been made a “scapegoat for a lot of people’s problems”, and said she never wanted to glorify anorexia or drug abuse.

Kate Moss - Jeff Kravitz/FilmMagic
Kate Moss - Jeff Kravitz/FilmMagic

“I was never anorexic, I never have been,” she said. “I had never taken heroin. I was thin because I didn’t get fed at shoots or in shows and I had always been thin.”

She also explained that her “nothing tastes as good as skinny feels” motto was intended to be a joke, and had been taken out of context.

“Basically, I was doing an interview and at the time I was living with (hairdresser) Jimmy B and my friend and she was a bit of a snacker,” she said.

“So on the fridge, Jimmy B had written, ‘Nothing tastes as good as skinny feels’, and when the person asked me, I don't know why, it just came [to me] because that was what was happening at the time.

“We were saying it because it was funny. But obviously, they were like, ‘Soundbite!’ and that was that.”