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demonstrates is that the dcup rebrand will probably go down in canadian politics as the worst rebranding that has occurred and having the most neck impact. They wanted to distance themselves from a party that really wasn't their values anyways, since they were actually conservatives. They chose a really cumbersome acronym that people still struggle with, how to refer to them as. And now their lunch is getting eaten by a party whose name they probably should have adopted from the get-go. So this is the right eating the right right now and as it progresses I'm sitting back and enjoying the show. >> You're right, is it the bc united party, bc united, just united, it gets confusing. To you, sabrina, as well, and touching on something that mel and guarantee were talking a little bit about. This idea that perhaps if you are the leader of the conservative party in british columbia, which of course is always struggled going back many, many years, you start to think, well, you know, given what's happening federally and how far ahead the conservatives are with pierre poilievre, maybe we have an opportunity to break through here in british columbia, so why do I want to, you know, hitch my wagon to the folks over at bc united? >> Yeah, I mean, again, I think that there's little to come out of benefits, the bc conservatives to even like think about net merger with the bc united, 12% doesn't make any sense. But I do also think that there is some risk hitching their wagon foully to the federal conservatives, right? There's a -- and while the conservatives are still doing well in the polls right now federally, they're still some risk that they might -- they might falter and I think that it also really depends on what do people in bc care about. And -- health care, the cost of living, and affordability and housing. And I think that so far, the conservatives haven't really come to the table with a plan for that federally, and I don't really think they are coming as the plan to the table with a plan for that provincially. So it does -- like, do they have any yesterdayability in actually solving these issues or is premier eby host winnipeg some of his plan to actually make a difference on those three issues. >> Todd: last word on this to you, rachel aiello, how does it play out? What do you think we're going to see? >> I do think what you hit on, there todd, about looking at pierre poilievre's recent run in british columbia and whether the federal conservatives are able to kind of help buoy the provincial conservatives is going to be something to watch in this ongoing race. I think we've seen conservative leader pierre poilievre spend a lot of time in british columbia and certainly trying to make continuous gains with some of the outskirts regions around vancouver. So that is certainly something I would imagine that the provincial party is keeping an eye on, and even in this echoing of common sense language, potentially a ship they're trying to ride to their own electoral success. >> All right, we're going to get our front bench to stick around in just a moment, when we come back, we're going to look at prime minister trudeau's pharmacare strategy and taking on pierre poilievre's once again. We'll be right back. I've got good news. There is a murderer - Oh! - walking among us. [gasps] Fantastic! I'm sorry, what? She watches a lot of true crime. Welcome to the family. There's so much new stuff happening out there. I just can't keep up. Well it's too far to swim back now. This is amazing! I promise you I'll not let you down. Stream the best of British tv only on Britbox. Watch with a free trial at britbox.com. You shall live with mosquitoesand ticks no more...Contact mosquito.buzz and of your summer outisde. mosquito.buzz will spray all theareas where mosquitoes and ticks live, rest and hide. Trees, shrubs, under the deck,behind the shed. Anywhere you need protectionfrom harmful mosquitoes and ticks. We come back on arepeated schedule so you're bug freeall season long. Safe, effective,incredible results. Contact us today atmosquito.buzz Let's go for a skate, and a little chat. Because retirement today is not what it used to be. The good news is we're living longer and more active lives, but planning for that longevitycan come with some challenges. Thankfully as a Canadian homeowner aged 55 and better, you have options. The chip Program allows you to access the value of your home without selling it. So you can live retirement on your terms. If you're 55 or older call now for your free no obligation chip Reverse Mortgage Guide. With chip you get up to 55% of your home's value in tax free cash take only what you need in a lump sum or over time with no monthly mortgage payments required. Call (number on screen) Maybe it's time for you to consider chip too! Call now for your free no obligation guide. Call (number on screen) or visit chip dot ca. Call chip today and live retirement your way.

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make a priority, and make the investments that matter. That being said, I think it's -- we have -- there's less of a reason to speculate and more of a reason to actually accept that a potential conservative government would cut pharmacare, dental care, axis to the very fundamental medications that people require and we also do see from members of the conservative party right now, rather in elected MPs, very problematic rhetoric around a woman's right to choose. So I do think there's a clear dichotomy, there a clear split, and I think that for canadians, we need the investment that the ndp fought for, we need to maintain these investments in pharmacare, dental care and more. >> Let's bring in mel, because there's lots to cover there and I want you to respond to that. As you know, the problem for the prime minister and his party is it's an up hill battle. They are way behind the polls and those polls are pretty stubborn in terms of the spread between them and the conservatives. They've been trying lots of different things in recent months throwing everything at the wall to see if they can shift those numbers t doesn't seem at this point to be working. We're a long way away, more than a year plus no doubt from the next federal election. But your read on the strategy that trudeau is adopting and lots of his ministers too, let's be clear. >> Well, I think it's a good communications strategy. The problem is that he doesn't really back it up with unstands. The pharmacare bill is yet another example of the liberal government saying one thing and then doing another. The legislation itself actually requires the provinces to take on the whole burden of the cost associated with pharmacare program for both drug that is are covered and those that would be publicly covered or in a private care either way. And that -- that's happening without any consultation. The provinces have not been engage today date at all on this bill, and the despite the fact that they are going to be the most significantly impacted by it. Ontario's a great example. In ontario, children under the age of 18 have access to a free pharmacare through ohip, so my son is almost three years old, and if he gets an infection and he needs an antibiotic I could take him to the pharmacare and it's covered under ohip. It's not clear who the first payer will be under the new pharmacare plan in ontario. How is that going to change? Is that going to jeopardize the program that already exists in this province? The provinces don't any answers to this because they haven't been consulted by the federal government at all on this bill. So I think from the get-go, this has been a problematic piece of legislation because there's just no real follow-through here in order to actually execute on it. >> Let's dig a little deeper in terms of where things stand right now with the bill getting it through parliament, rachel aiello has been watching that as our extraordinary parliamentary correspondent. Rachel, where do things stand right now? >> Yeah, todd. So the liberals teamed up with the ndp to advance a motion to essentially fast track this bill through the remaining stages in the house. So we had two very long study days at committee thursday and friday, MPs had to get their amendments in by this afternoon, and then they've really programmed the timing out, so we're looking at about five more hours of debate at report stage and one more day at third reading. So if they really wanted to prioritize this and make it something that passes asap, that could happen as early as next week. Ened I think kind of to get back to mel's point about the provinces being consulted, the liberals have made it clear that they want to get this bill passed so they can start those consultations. Mark holland, the health minister this week was talking about needing to or intending to work on those deals this summer, and, todd, to get back to your bigger point about really sticking the conservatives, I think the linchpin for the liberals here is they can talk all they want about the conservatives pulling back pharmacare, but if they don't actually get these deals in place and there's nothing to actually tell people that poilievre is going to take away, that argument becomes quite weak and so they really do have an impetus to make sure that there are deals across the country to secure this agreement on funding and providing these dental -- or diabetes and contraceptive medications, because without that actually being something canadians are actively already able to access, the argument about it being taken away is definitely weakened. >> Yeah, okay, we're running out of time. But just quick lightening round before we go. Back to you, sabrina, of the arguments that this is nothing more than fear mongering on the part of the liberals trying to scare people, look, you like these programs, you better not vote for pierre poilievre, they're going to take it away. Your take? >> My only -- I think as gurratan pointed out earlier, one was things that the liberals are focusing on now is the right for a woman to choose and the abortion legislation and the conservative government across the province, they said no, no problem pulling that right on the rights of trans-youth and the rights of the lgbt. So it's a boliviaable proposition that the conservatives government will

pull this back because they have conservative governments to pointe already. So I think it's still a good strategy for the liberals. >> Gurratan, your take? >> Well, I think it's just the -- what has been communicated by the conservative party and the leadership, the fact that they've said that they would bring cuts to child care, to pharmacare, that this could be the last government that has a minister of health. Like, these are very problematic statements that come out of the conservatives and we don't know the extent of their authority, but we do know that that's what conservative governments tomorrow. They cut to the services that people rely them out. They cut to things like health care where they privatize it or open up the doors to privatization. These are all factor that is effectively weaken our public services and effectively hurt the services that people need the most. >> I guess, mel, the counter argument to that would be, look, we can't afford some of this stuff and it is very generous and, you know, when you take a good hard look at some of these programs and see where we can perhaps scale back in order to make sure we're not adding more and more and more to the national credit card so to speak. >> Or duplicating efforts. But I think that actually goes deeper than that here. I think this is an issue of trust. And I don't think that many canadians trust the liberal government to actually execute on this plan and to get it across the finish line in parts because they have failed to consult with the provinces that are the one whose are going to end up having to download this program and be the ones who manage it and finance it, in the end. And they also haven't engaged with the medicine manufacturers in canada on this bill, it's going to impact them, it's going to impact patients who depend on access to those innovative medicines. None of these stakeholders have been engaged in this bill and they can't say, oh, we're going to ram this legislation through and then we'll consult with them. That's not how this works. You need to do the consultation up front before you pass the bill. >> We're going to say good-bye to three of our four front benchers, and thank you they have for coming on the show. Gurratan and mel as well as sabrina and wish you all of the best, have a great weekend, we'll talk to you again real soon. We're going to keep rachel aiello because she's taking a look at the week ahead. Rachel, we're standing by for more movement on the foreign interference file. What are you watching that for? >> That's right, todd. So the first bit of debate is going to happen on that bill on wednesday, and I'm watching this because this first bit of debate on any bill is a really good opportunity to get a sense of where the parties stand. And why I'm watching this one is because we've heard from the opposition parties, this push for the government to act on a foreign agent registry. Well, now they've done that through this bill and so is it going to be something that there's going to be all party consensus and agreement that this is something that urgently needs to get done and get passed or are there going to be concerns raised about some of the other measures within this bill, new powers for csis, for example. So that's one was big things that I'm going to be keeping an eye on when they come back next week. >> All right, and what about the from the? Where do things stand on that? >> So by and far, todd, the budget bill is the biggest prior to for the government to get passed before they rise for the summer break. Both the fall economic statement legislation and the budget bill has been kind of helped along this week by time allocation. The government putting forward motions kind of prescribing how much time is left to it, so those are certainly going to be hot ones to watch if they kind of round out the finish line. They've already got the senate prestudying both to help expedite that but then there is this question, todd, freedom he'll freeland said this week they are committed to bringing forward that capital gains legislation, that still has yet to happen. And if they are adamant that is going to be in place next month, how is that going to work procedurally, so I'm going to keep an eye on that too. >> Rachel aiello, thanks for this, rachel. 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