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Posted Up - Is Kyrie Irving as good as we think he is?

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Yahoo Sports senior NBA insider Chris Haynes and senior NBA reporter Vincent Goodwill connected on the ‘Posted Up with Chris Haynes’ podcast to discuss on the Brooklyn Nets guard’s rank as one of the premier players in the game. Hear the full conversation on the Posted Up with Chris Haynes podcast. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher or wherever you listen.

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VINCE GOODWILL: It's Kyrie as good as we think he is?

CHRIS HAYNES: Hmm.

VINCE GOODWILL: And I don't, and I don't mean it in the standpoint of him being a skilled basketball player, like you can see all the gifts, you can see the talents and everything else, right, nobody's denying that. But have we seen him affect winning? Have we seen, if Kevin Durant, which I believe up until recently, is the best player in basketball, and Kyrie Irving is a quote unquote winner, you don't get swept in the first round of the playoffs. I'm sorry.

CHRIS HAYNES: OK.

VINCE GOODWILL: No matter, no matter the circumstances, you don't get swept in the first round of the playoffs. We get so enamored by the skill, we get so enamored by the skill and what he can do, is he a winning player? And if he's not, there's a reason why he's got a list and other teams aren't calling the Nets saying, let us come take this all world point guard off your hands.

CHRIS HAYNES: That is a tough question, Vince, because in answering that question, it is hard to diminish what he's already done. And if you have that tape, like if you're really questioning if he's a winning basketball player, that leads me to believe that you felt like he merely rode the coattails of LeBron for that championship. When we all know, Kyrie hit the biggest shot. He would actually seal the championship with that shot, the 3 over Steph Curry.

So he does impact winning. I think ultimately what needs to be considered is, is he the primary reason or is he the primary factor of contributing to winning. And I think that's a different question. Because we look at him going to Boston as the lead guy, things didn't work out. Going to Brooklyn as well, you know, so far, things haven't worked out.

But I can't say that he doesn't impact winning. I mean, you put him in the right situation, for sure, I think, I think he could, I think he could do wonders. I think we've shown that, we've seen that in Cleveland. But I think what, I think the question is, or the way people may interpret how you ask that is, does he impact winning in a primary role.

VINCE GOODWILL: But if you switch Kyrie Irving and Steph Curry this year, is Golden State anywhere near sniffing the finals?

CHRIS HAYNES: Yeah.

VINCE GOODWILL: Anywhere sniffing the finals?

CHRIS HAYNES: I agree, I agree with you. But that has nothing to do with basketball or skill set. That has everything to do with how you blend in with your team. Like, how you mesh with guys.

VINCE GOODWILL: Oh!

CHRIS HAYNES: Personality.

VINCE GOODWILL: You mean, you mean leadership! You mean things that actually, wait, Chris, you mean things that actually impact winning.

CHRIS HAYNES: I agree with you. That's why I said, that's why I said, as a primary guy, he hasn't shown the ability to effectively be an impact player. Now if he's not the lead guy, then we've seen it in Cleveland. But no, yeah, I agree with you totally on that.

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