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On Sunday, the NFL played a regular season game in front of a sellout crowd at London's Wembley Stadium for the third straight year. In recent months, the English Premier League has openly discussed returning the favor to the United States by adding a 39th game to its schedule and holding it at various sites around the world, including in the States. This begs the question: If the Brits are so accepting of American football, would Americans be interested in English football?

If it's done right, there's no reason to think why playing one EPL game per season in the United States wouldn't be a rousing success. It might upset English football traditionalists, but it could help expand the league's global footprint and make EPL soccer something more than a novelty in these parts.

In order to do so, however, the games themselves must still feel like a novelty. (It's quite an anomaly, I know: In order to not be a novelty, the games themselves must stay a novelty.) Like it or not, the only way that soccer has proven its ability to be a mass success in the United States is when there are big-time events. World Cups (men's or women's), David Beckham debuts and exhibitions between European clubs and/or MLS teams can sell thousands of tickets at the biggest venues in the country.

This country has a huge "big event" complex. On the whole, the masses won't get excited about something unless it feels important. This is why gymnastics, figure skating and swimming are only big every four years. For this reason, MLS will never catch on with a huge audience. People don't think there's anything at stake. These aren't the best players or the best league, people rationalize, so why should I care?

The EPL won't have a problem establishing legitimacy over here. Even the greenest of sports fans understand that the EPL is the big-time. 

In order to sell a lot of tickets and make this venture worthwhile, though, the EPL would have to be careful which games it selects for the United States. A soccer equivalent of the New Orleans Saints-Miami Dolphins game (which was played in London last year) won't fly. People won't be filling Giants Stadium to see Stoke City vs. Portsmouth. It will take a Manchester United or Chelsea or Arsenal -- teams with American name recognition -- to generate interest.

The EPL also wouldn't have the luxury of picking one location and sticking with it (as the NFL has done with Wembley). The game will need to rotate on a yearly basis amongst cities with big soccer followings (Los Angeles, New York, Washington/Baltimore) and places with enthusiastic hosts (as Fenway Park apparently is) to ensure freshness in new markets.

Handled correctly, these games would have the potential to generate more casual interest in the EPL and, perhaps, could even give the afternoon games on Fox Soccer Channel (which recently re-upped its American contract) a big-event feel in the United States.

For 30 years people have asked "can soccer succeed in America?" Maybe the reason it hasn't is because people have been selling the wrong product. The EPL could be the right one.

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  1. jefinch2003
    1. Posted by jefinch2003 Tue Oct 27, 2009 7:28 pm EDT

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    wasn't FIFA completely against this plan?
  2. Jamaican Props
    2. Posted by Jamaican Props Tue Oct 27, 2009 8:48 pm EDT

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    great idea - but why not Barcelona versus Real Madrid ? Why do Americans always jump to EPL and not La Liga?
    But I agree with the writer as a whole: you do need the BIG TIME teams ... Milan, Barca, Bayern, Juve, Liverpool, etc. Of course it makes the MLS become a non-issue league; but overall I believe it would raise play in the US bringing the stars over. This happened with NBA going over to Europe as well.
  3. dan
    3. Posted by dan Tue Oct 27, 2009 8:49 pm EDT

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    horrible idea, you can not offer a 39th game with any meaning otherwise teams would not have even schedule strength
  4. Isaac M
    4. Posted by Isaac M Tue Oct 27, 2009 8:55 pm EDT

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    I've always found the "these aren't the best players, this isn't the top league" argument hysterical. This comes from sports writers who are all too eager to write about College sports. Have you ever seen an NCAA Tournament game? Most of those kids will never play the pro game, and rightly so. There are so many misses in those games it's hillarious, unless of course, you're a fan, in which case it's justifiable and it's "part of what makes it exciting."
    I think it's just a case of sports writers trying to rationalize (and failing) why soccer hasn't taken off in America. I'm guessing that the fact that isolationism kept the sport out of America for almost a century isn't a good enough story.
  5. Isaac M
    5. Posted by Isaac M Tue Oct 27, 2009 8:55 pm EDT

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    I've always found the "these aren't the best players, this isn't the top league" argument hysterical. This comes from sports writers who are all too eager to write about College sports. Have you ever seen an NCAA Tournament game? Most of those kids will never play the pro game, and rightly so. There are so many misses in those games it's hillarious, unless of course, you're a fan, in which case it's justifiable and it's "part of what makes it exciting."
    I think it's just a case of sports writers trying to rationalize (and failing) why soccer hasn't taken off in America. I'm guessing that the fact that isolationism kept the sport out of America for almost a century isn't a good enough story.
  6. Football Detective
    6. Posted by Football Detective Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:01 pm EDT

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    By limiting it to the Big Four of the EPL you just continue the cycle of the haves v. the have-nots. Professional sports already have a competitive problem of teams not able to crack the top tier. How is this going to help?
  7. The Gaffer
    7. Posted by The Gaffer Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:06 pm EDT

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    Its only a matter of time before this happens. The Premier League has big plans to expand its product globally and competes against the NFL, NBA and other soccer leagues. This will definitely happen within the next 5 years. Manchester United in New York, anyone?
    Cheers,
    The Gaffer
    http://www.epltalk.com
  8. Quentin
    8. Posted by Quentin Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:10 pm EDT

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    The issue with visits by these euro clubs to the US right now is the fact that they don't field their strongest squad. I saw AC Milan v. Chicago in 2005 and it was mostly reserve players. The Aston Villa v. Columbus match I watched had a somewhat strong squad. Either way, I don't much care to see an EPL team against an MLS team. It is meaningless. Now, if Arsenal were playing another EPL team in the US, I'd definitely be down for it. Just find some way of compensating an EPL minnow for giving up their home fixture against one of the top 4.
  9. David
    9. Posted by David Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:12 pm EDT

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    mls is a worthwhile league right now and it will only get better over time. it seems you want to dump mls and let american soccer fans subsist off 10 epl games. even if you include games from la liga, serie a, and the bundesliga and the french league, that's not a lot of games. there is more to a sport than whether or not movie stars are in attendance. let the big european teams come over here for exhibition games, but don't blow off mls. i have a feeling these playoffs are going to be the best we've ever seen for the league. go galaxy!
  10. Your Mom
    10. Posted by Your Mom Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:13 pm EDT

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    Great post Isaac.
  11. redbanditracer
    11. Posted by redbanditracer Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:14 pm EDT

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    Hmmm... if Americans saw more of this level of play, maybe it would draw more attention.
    Truth is, most Americans i know are totally ignorant to the European level of play. Many refuse to even watch a game based on the fact its futbol and not 'american' football.
    Its like trying to teach blind people to read. While futbol does have a following in the US, its not big enough to make it as popular as the NFL.
    One thing that i love about futbol though... Waaaaaaaaaaay less commercials than College football and NFL. Im sure any sports fan would appreciate that.
    Maybe they should start by pitching Americans that concept before they start promoting the actual game.
    "It's FOOTBALL!!! With less commercials!!! And no time outs!!!" Im sold folks... so sold.
  12. Dan
    12. Posted by Dan Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:20 pm EDT

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    I love the idea of the EPL or any other league for that matter to hold a game in the United States. It would have to be a regular league game though. Adding a 39th game would create unfair advantages in terms of schedules. If a Chelsea was able to play a Portsmouth three times the advantage would clearly be Chelsea's and extremely unfair towards Portsmouth. The game would also have to mean something. If it was a 39th game, the table could already have been set and the managers would play reserves to gain experience. All this being said I would be the first one in line to buy tickets no matter the cost. Come to Chicago.
  13. Ivan Pjanovic
    13. Posted by Ivan Pjanovic Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:48 pm EDT

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    Isaac...you are spot on my man and I'd friend you right now if i knew how to.
  14. anfernee
    14. Posted by anfernee Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:51 pm EDT

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    a 39th game doesn't make any sense if what they are trying is to play meaningful matches. Bring the last match before the winter break, or the first match after the winter break. That would be meaningful and would find an american public in the right mood to jump on the futbol bandwagon
  15. Jeff F
    15. Posted by Jeff F Tue Oct 27, 2009 10:08 pm EDT

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    The World Football Challenge held this past summer was a clear indication that games featuring elite european teams would be a huge success. I know the Chelsea/AC Milan game in Baltimore was sold out (71,000) even though it was just an exhibition. And the top players all played at least half the game (Lampard, ronaldniho, terry, drogba, pirlo, pato, cech, seedorf). Both teams drew a huge fan base for that game.
    I hate when people call the mls a joke. The league has only existed for 14 years! Clubs are becoming profitable and the league is getting more media exposure. MLS is a second or third tier league worldwide right now, but with time it will get bigger and better.
  16. Truth
    16. Posted by Truth Tue Oct 27, 2009 10:43 pm EDT

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    EPL is much better football overall. La Liga has a few good teams, but I doubt La Liga would let the classic be played in the US.
  17. Jabbar
    17. Posted by Jabbar Tue Oct 27, 2009 10:45 pm EDT

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    Believe or not the United States is climbing from so far behind to be the number 11th world soccer best team in the world, people it is very huge. Meaning we are getting closer and closer to be soonner the soccer world champion after a great show in South Africa this year. Come on people we beat the number one ranking ( Spain) team in the world back then, that's very huge. I was at the chelsea game in Dallas see my Mentor Didier Drogba. The New Cowboys stadium was packed. Well i believe if fans in English can fill a stadium with not even a single british player on the field. I'm pretty sure it will return the favor here when a high ranking team of the EPL scheduled to play here. EPL will be welcomed and believe in it, it will be sold out. It's been proven.
  18. backdoorbetty79
    18. Posted by backdoorbetty79 Tue Oct 27, 2009 10:53 pm EDT

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    Horrible idea. Let US have MLS and England the EPL. All it is is greed.
  19. Paygar
    19. Posted by Paygar Tue Oct 27, 2009 10:56 pm EDT

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    mls is a joke what i they playing for there no star player or it is not compelative,until they bring good players and have a north american club championship.what i dont understand shootout only in america
  20. Asmir
    20. Posted by Asmir Tue Oct 27, 2009 11:21 pm EDT

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    Rubbish Idea, and it won't happen. The only way MLS can get better is to change their name to MLF and get European mangers to come and mange the clubs, the American and Mexican mangers you have now managing the MLS clubs are complete joke managers they don't know nothing about Football.
  21. P
    21. Posted by P Tue Oct 27, 2009 11:27 pm EDT

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    The star power of the EPL is also sinking the FA into deep debt ensuring that the power reamins with the few teams (big four) with the deep pockets to compete. Is this what we need in this country? I think the EPL makes for good TV because of the relegation and European slots that make almost every game meaningful, not the star power of the players. If the MLS improves in the next 13 years as much as it has in its first then it will be as competitive as any European league as a whole. So who needs them to play on these shores? Let's just watch them on TV and actually attend MLS/USL games!
  22. Brad
    22. Posted by Brad Tue Oct 27, 2009 11:31 pm EDT

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    MLS is a joke compared to the top teams in Europe. Heck i cant even stomach watching mls after watching Barcelona or Man U, Chelsea, Liverpool, etc. If the american people would be able to see the Messi's or the Ronaldo's play a meaningful game here from time to time, I think soccer's overall popularity would skyrocket in the US. People want to see the best and the best sure isnt in MLS.
  23. sccrjck
    23. Posted by sccrjck Tue Oct 27, 2009 11:32 pm EDT

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    More of this level of play? Last weekend there was so much soccer on TV, including ESPN2 (albeit early), I didn't have time to watch it all. I think it would be lame. We have our own league, even if not at the same level. Also, very difficult for a big team with an already PACKED schedule.
  24. seanob82
    24. Posted by seanob82 Tue Oct 27, 2009 11:53 pm EDT

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    This would be fantastic and would ADD to the ALREADY growing popularity of the sport in this country. The one thing I cannot stand is this falsehood that continues to be put out there by reporters and columnists that soccer either isn't popular in this country or hasn't already caught on. If you compare attendance to other leagues around the world, there are actually only a few that top the MLS in all around attendance. The MLS was in the top 5 in the world for all around attendance two or three years back. Only leagues like the EPL, the German league, and the Spanish league were ahead. The MLS finished above respected leagues such as the Portuguese and Italian leagues. Sure the top teams in these leagues out draw the top teams here- but the difference is that in this country fans still come out to see many of their teams even if theyre having a tough year. That is a great sign that people have grown to love this sport- not just grown to love the big teams or the big games as this article suggests. Soccer IS ALREADY POPULAR in the US...whether sports journalists admit it or not.
  25. DaWorldsGame
    25. Posted by DaWorldsGame Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:08 am EDT

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    Big corporations and media networks in the US are not going to allow world football to ever become popular here in the US. They will continue to shove the sport they favor in US sportfans throat like NFL,NBA,MLB for the simple fact that these sports allows them to get away with bombardments of TV Ads that rakes in billions from OBLIVIOUS americans. That is why they flood the media (TV,radio,papers) with these sports and if your a sport fan to begin with you can't help but to like it, if thats all you see and read about. Not knowing they're being fed and brainwashed by big corporations and media networks.

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