Red Wings Team Report

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The Red Wings believe they have three veteran defensemen capable of logging more minutes and three young defensemen who can assume bigger roles.

They’ll need everybody on the blue line to step up and help compensate for the loss of Niklas Kronwall(notes), who will be out 4-8 weeks with a second- to third-degree sprain of the medial collateral ligament in his left knee, an injury sustained on what the Red Wings said was a dirty knee-on-knee hit by Montreal’s Georges Laraque(notes) on Saturday.

Kronwall, 28, won’t be easy to replace. He is their leading scorer among defensemen (five goals, 13 points) and a big open-ice hitter. He logged a lot of minutes as one of the point men on the second power-play unit and had been taking the first shift during the penalty kill.

“He’s been getting better and better every year, and he’s off to a great start,” general manager Ken Holland said. “It’s a significant loss, but others got to step up.”

Holland said he will not recall anybody from AHL affiliate Grand Rapids for now. He said Nicklas Lidstrom(notes), Brian Rafalski(notes) and Brad Stuart(notes) can log slightly more ice time. Derek Meech(notes), a healthy scratch most of the season, will play regularly and will get some power-play time. Jonathan Ericsson(notes) will get an opportunity to play alongside Lidstrom. And Brett Lebda(notes) will see more action in all situations as well.

“The good news is we got defensemen who can play more minutes,” Holland said. “We wanted to limit the minutes of our players, thinking down the road we might need them (to play more). We haven’t over-taxed anybody.”

Predators 3, Red Wings 1:   The Wings rank 30th and last in the NHL in penalty killing on the road, and it showed. Jason Arnott(notes) and Martin Erat(notes) scored power-play goals to stake Nashville to a 2-0 lead, and the Wings’ slow start (15 shots through two periods) proved costly.

They turned it on in the third period, out-shooting Nashville 16-4, but couldn’t get the equalizer as goaltender Pekka Rinne(notes) came up with several big stops.

NOTES, QUOTES

• The NHL suspended Montreal’s Georges Laraque five games for his knee-on-knee hit that sidelined Wings defenseman Niklas Kronwall for 4-8 weeks with a sprained left MCL. The suspension does the Wings no good—they’re without one of their best defensemen for up to two months while Laraque, though one of the best fighters in the league, is a fringe player for a team in the other conference. But the Wings were hoping a suspension would send a message to players that such a play is unacceptable.

• RW Drew Miller(notes) cut Nashville’s lead to 2-1 at 6:38 of the second period with his first goal as a Wing. He made a good move down low, took the puck to the net and fired it past goalie Pekka Rinne from close range. It was Miller’s first goal in 20 games this season, his first in 27 games dating back to last season when he played for Anaheim.

Quote To Note:   “I’m trying to bring energy every night. When things aren’t going well and they shake up the lineup, you got to be able to do what you can do for any line you’re put on.”—Wings forward Drew Miller.

ROSTER REPORT

Goaltenders:   Chris Osgood(notes), Jimmy Howard(notes).

Defensemen:   Nicklas Lidstrom, Brian Rafalski, Brad Stuart, Jonathan Ericsson, Brett Lebda, Derek Meech.

First Line:   Todd Bertuzzi(notes), Pavel Datsyuk(notes), Tomas Holmstrom(notes).

Second Line:   Ville Leino(notes), Henrik Zetterberg(notes), Dan Cleary.

Third Line:   Kris Draper(notes), Darren Helm(notes), Patrick Eaves(notes).

Fourth Line:   Brad May(notes), Justin Abdelkader(notes), Drew Miller.

Player Notes:  

• C Justin Abdelkader continues to struggle in the face-off circle. He won only 2-of-9 draws and has won only 40.8 percent of his face-offs for the season.

• LW Todd Bertuzzi leads the team’s forwards with 18 giveaways and also has the lowest shooting percentage among forwards on the top two lines (5 percent). Turnovers and an inability to finish continue to be his biggest problems.

• RW Tomas Holmstrom has cooled off after a hot start. He has gone five games without a point and has only two points (goal, assist) in the last nine games despite being on the first power-play unit.

Medical Watch:  

• D Niklas Kronwall is out 4-to-8 weeks with a sprained left medial collateral ligament suffered Saturday.

• RW Jason Williams(notes) is out until mid-January with a fractured right fibula sustained Nov. 7.

• C Valtteri Filppula(notes) is out until late December with a broken right wrist sustained Oct. 29.

• D Andreas Lilja(notes) is on long-term injured reserve due to concussion-like symptoms. He has been skating but remains out indefinitely.

• LW Johan Franzen(notes) isn’t expected to return until March due to a torn left anterior cruciate ligament, sustained Oct. 8.

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  1. <i>khaouli87</i>
    148. Posted by khaouli87 Mon Nov 23 8:55pm EST

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    i agree with most you on jimmy howard, my only quarrel is with babcock (good ol' saskatchewan boy) he didnt play howard enough last year when they were killing it, to up his confidence. as much as i despise that son of a ***** hudler and his defensive 'struggles' he was and has been the most efficient player in the nhl for the last 2 seasons with ~50 pts and less than 12 min/gm. like it or not, thats bordering forsberg efficiency now imagine a full season with either zetts or pavel feeding him gold? imagine the pp? that son of a ***** i hate him, but i digress, we all cant freak out about the way this years turning out, franzen and filpulla were supposed to be big parts but they've gone down to injury. as for the "losses" in the offseason
    1) hossa - we won the cup without him so who cares? he always was just the cherry on the top
    2) samuelsson - decent trigger man but it was his time to go and plus detroits picked up another project, see patrick eaves former 1st round. he reaks of danny cleary potential.
    3) kopecky - healthy scratch
    4) hudler - not going to lie i think this one hurted the most out of them all. i hate that guy!
  2. Nwaf A
    147. Posted by Nwaf A Sun Nov 22 6:06pm EST

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    this wings team is gonna be great you just wait/ haters.

    ozzy is a playoff goalie not a season one.

    howard is getting better game by game he looks like he is still lacking a bit of confidence / but let him get this season under his belt and he is gonna be awesome.
  3. Red Wing Nut
    146. Posted by Red Wing Nut Sun Nov 22 4:56pm EST

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    Just wait till you guys see this dude named Maxime Tanguay down in Toledo for the Walleye. He is Alex's brother and he is a freaking offensive MACHINE.
  4. TRMGDEAD
    145. Posted by TRMGDEAD Sat Nov 21 10:09pm EST

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    I would rather have Howard's upswing than Osgood's obvious downswing at this point in their respective careers.
  5. Marmot
    144. Posted by Marmot Sat Nov 21 7:08pm EST

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    Jimmy is coming around now that he has a few games under his belt, he just needed the confidence of winning a few, 4 & 3 now. I've seen him in GR where he had a stellar season, got hurt, struggled to get the groove back, and then had some good years. Ozzie is looking like he did at playoff time which will give the newcomers time to gel and lower the blood pressure of the fans and coaches.

    Wings haven't gone for youth? 7 @ 25 or under and 12 @ 30 or under out of 22, looks like a good mix to me. Far younger than some teams of the past and a good pipeline here in GR.

    Bruisetuzzi and May were brought in to add that muscle we lack and make opponents think twice about taking liberties with Paves & Hank, willingness to go to the corner and stand in front of the net, definitely not for their offensive skills although Bert's hands make wake up again.

    I wasn't sad to see Hudler go, too inconsistent, coughed the puck up at key times, and didn't cover his D when they pinched. Hossa doesn't seem to be a clutch player, didn't do it for us or the Pens so he was way too expensive for the results. I was sorry to see Samuelsson go, he added that combination of grit and scoring we needed.

    P.S. Franzen is still a Wing.
  6. Jonny G
    143. Posted by Jonny G Thu Nov 19 4:25pm EST

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    Great to see more Jimmy Howard supporters on here lately. I can't stand fans that hate on the players on thier own team. The kid has shined at every level of play in his career and is starting to make that transition in the NHL. I said it at the beginning of the season, you have to be patient with young goaltenders. It's very rare to get those Marc Andre Fluery types that can dominate right away. He's still going to have some bad games but he's improving in leaps and bounds and gaining confidence. It doesn't look like any big roster changes are in the plans for this year so until something does happen let's support the guys we have. Go Wings!
  7. Jonny G
    142. Posted by Jonny G Thu Nov 19 3:41pm EST

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    Great to see more Jimmy Howard supporters on here lately. I can't stand fans that hate on the players on thier own team. The kid has shined at every level of play in his career and is starting to make that transition in the NHL. I said it at the beginning of the season, you have to be patient with young goaltenders. It's very rare to get those Marc Andre Fluery types that can dominate right away. He's still going to have some bad games but he's improving in leaps and bounds and gaining confidence. It doesn't look like any big roster changes are in the plans for this year so until something does happen let's support the guys we have. Go Wings!
  8. Bill
    141. Posted by Bill Wed Nov 18 9:14am EST

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    Yo, Glass Beaters,
    you remind me of coyotes who speak from the pack, attack the sick, lame, and aged, and leave their wandering tracks behind them. You wouldn't know a great franchise if it kissed you. Go on back to your seat and try not to spill your beer all over yourself. Enjoy the game for what it is and don't become a fair weather fan of the players who wear the Winged Wheel.

    LETS GO RED WINGS !! !!!
  9. Pat
    140. Posted by Pat Wed Nov 18 1:25am EST

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    Just give them a field they will come i will sing for them if i had wings , red wings i will fly away into an open field.. back field in motion im gonna have to penalize u...and take me out to the ole...---------------game... oncore... song bird in kuwait.
  10. <i>missinglink15332</i>
    139. Posted by missinglink15332 Tue Nov 17 1:50pm EST

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    Remember two years ago in the Stanley Cup Finals when Gary Roberts punched Johan Franzen in the head after coming back from a concussion. hahahahaa good memories
  11. Melting Media
    138. Posted by Melting Media Mon Nov 16 8:28am EST

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    Gomoyo nails it. The reason the Wings stay near the top year after year is due to Holland/Nill/Devallano's ability to stock Grand Rapids and make key F/A role player acquisitions like Eaves. Remember the bust and meltdown with Curtis Joseph when Hasek wanted to return? The club learned a hard lesson from that episode and hasn't made any moves like that since. I can think of at least 2 veterans beyond Hasek who signed with the Wings to win a Cup and promptly retired: Dallas Drake and Steve Duschene.
  12. J.B.
    137. Posted by J.B. Sun Nov 15 10:41pm EST

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    C'mon Charlie...what team was Babcock with before? You think it would have gone this long if he thought Giguere was a viable option? dude, give the guy some credit, he is doing a hell of a job!
  13. Sir
    136. Posted by Sir Sun Nov 15 2:50pm EST

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    charlie kelly... are you serious? seriously? wow...
  14. RedWingFan
    135. Posted by RedWingFan Sat Nov 14 10:10am EST

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    Bring back Gordie . . .
  15. Charlie Kelly
    134. Posted by Charlie Kelly Tue Nov 10 11:58pm EST

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    With all these long term injuries and cap space to match the goalie woes, I'm left wondering why the Wings don't try and pick up a backup goalie by the name of Jean-Sebastien Giguere... Yes he has a lofty contract a 6 mil. Yes, he is coming off of the worse season of his career amidst the loss of his father. But look at what he has done: Conn Smythe winner, 2 time Stanley Cup Final starting Goalkeeper, 2007 Stanley Cup ring. Meanwhile, Anaheim would benefit from clearing cap space and grabbing some prospects and/or getting a few role players... but maybe its just a silly dream.
  16. Mort
    133. Posted by Mort Tue Nov 10 8:04am EST

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    For those of you who think Forsberg would be a good addition to the Wing's Roster; . . . . . Mr. Forsberg has already made the statement that he "would rather NOT PLAY for Detroit". He apparent-ly holds some "grudge" against Detroit from the '90's, although he did'nt elaborate on any reason for this "attitude".
  17. <i>gomoyo103</i>
    132. Posted by gomoyo103 Tue Nov 10 7:01am EST

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    for god's sake, enough with the shanahan talk. for everyone who's still stuck in 2001, here are a couple stats:

    -shanny scored 29 goals in 67 games with the rangers in '07..
    -shanny scored 29 goals in 107 combined games with the rangers/devils in '08/'09
    -the wings are the oldest team in the nhl
    -if shanny wore a wings jersey again, he would turn 41.

    hell, if we're feeling nostalgic enough to start shouting for this kind of nonsense, why don't we bring back chelios? recall darren mccarty? i'm sure we could make a move for fedorov or call mike vernon out of retirement?

    point is, we (wings fans) need to stop living in the glory days and own up to the fact that we haven't made any strides to get younger for quite some time... and it's finally caught up with us. now we're trying to get younger. if you're not finding good enough talent in your farm system, then there's only one thing to do - cut your losses and make cap room.

    yes, we've made some questionable (at-best) personnel decisions. obviously, bertuzzi turned out to be the veteran scoring muscle we were looking for. letting kyle quincey go in favor of derek meech has been gold. the simple fact that brett "forward trapped in a defenseman's body but still hasn't realized it yet" lebda and andreas "what sport am i playing?" lilja are still wearing redwing jerseys is beyond my comprehension.

    hossa, samuelsson, hudler, franzen - NONE of these were bad moves whatsoever. sure, i would have liked to see hossa stay a wing, but not for $63 million over 12 years. it's unfortunate he got dumped after flopping in the playoffs after such a phenomenal regular season, but tough @#$%. we got him to win the stanley cup, not the president's cup. it didn't work, he was a big reason for that, so now he's out. samuelsson had no place on our roster. he was too good for our third line and he knew it. so he went out there, sat in the slot, and shot whenever he touched the puck. he never dumped and he didn't play defense, and that's not wings hockey. hudler was basically the same deal. he would overachieve and then underachieve and had been doing much more underachieving than overachieving as of late. he was a good third line center, but too inconsistent. no one gets pushed off the puck as much as hudler, except for filppula, but filppula is twice the player.

    they'll have cap room to make a big splash in the offseason (if they don't do something outrageous at the trade deadline) so we just need to grin and bear it. maybe patrick kane? who knows. either way, wings fans need to brighten up. shanahan will do us no good, not in the short term or the long term. whining about hossa is neither here nor there. the things that's killing us are injuries, and because we've made no moves to get younger, those injuries are amplified ten-fold. yes, it's only october, but don't be ridiculous - dreams of a third consecutive year in the finals and a 12th cup are long gone. i'm not a downer, i'm just being realistic.

    with that said, i look forward to braving the storm and going back to our winning ways. i'll stay patient... as long as management gives me a reason to.
  18. Adam H
    131. Posted by Adam H Sun Nov 8 8:41am EST

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    Bringing back Shanny would be a great idea. But I can't get on the "We Hate Howard" bus. The kids lacks confidence but he'll get it
  19. <i>lyosha.wingnut</i>
    130. Posted by lyosha.wingnut Sat Nov 7 4:49pm EST

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    I agree about Forsberg, evn though I hate the idea that anyone from 90's colorado squad would be playing in Detroit. If he is available, Wings should approach him. But it is Forsberg, exactly - it's Forsberg. Oh, I can't decide.
  20. marcis
    129. Posted by marcis Sat Nov 7 2:36pm EST

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    Lete's get rid of Howard, first and formost. He will never be a NHL goalie, and never as a Red Wing.
  21. Marc M
    128. Posted by Marc M Fri Nov 6 11:27pm EST

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    Janik played a smart game, please do not bring back the human turnover machine Lilja!!!
  22. Red Wing Nut
    127. Posted by Red Wing Nut Thu Nov 5 12:46pm EST

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    We need to sign Brendan Shanahan back.
  23. Matt
    126. Posted by Matt Tue Nov 3 10:44am EST

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    With Filpula out and Franzen out, the Wings can spend that money. The best way to do it is with a rent-a-player that you know will be gone at the end of the year...........Who would be the best rent-a-player out there??? Who's the best player in the world not currently under a contract anywhere??? Who is the healthiest they've been in years and is getting in shape to play for the Swedish Olympic team (as a team mate of several Detroit Red Wings)??? Who would make an immediate offensive impact and has always been a fantastic playoff performer???.............PETER FORSBERG!!!!.......HE'S AVAILABLE......MR HOLLAND, TALK TO HIM...........I CAN'T THINK OF ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD WHERE HE'D BE A MORE NATURAL FIT.
  24. dh
    125. Posted by dh Mon Nov 2 6:05am EST

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    im telling you guys, it doesnt matter where the wings seed they just need to get to the playoffs,which they will, and then its cup12 , nothing else matters to this team.why fight and get beat up to win a top 4 spot when it doesnt matter who you play in the first 3 rounds?? get rested and healthy and get there, thats all the wings need to do!!! this team reminds me of the 97- 98 team, tired but dangerous.
  25. RedWingFan
    124. Posted by RedWingFan Sat Oct 31 10:10am EDT

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    HELLO BUFFALO . . .

    Detroit here . . .

    Yeah, that kid Ryan Miller . . yes, that kid

    You take ANYBODY from my NHL roster, yes ANYBODY

    a n d . . you take anybody from our Grand Rapids roster . .

    AND GIVE US RYAN MILLER

    'nuf said . . MAKE IT HAPPEN!
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