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Today's must-read bit of investigative blogging comes from The Falconer over on Do The Thrashers Have Large Talons? He assembled the most likely starting rosters for all 30 NHL teams and put together a rather fascinating ranking of the "weighted ages" for teams in the 2008-09 season.

In comparison to last year's averages ages, here's what he discovered:

Getting Younger

Carolina Hurricanes: 2nd to 14th (-2.08 years)
Los Angeles Kings: 18th to 29th (-1.53)
Atlanta Thrashers: 4th to 13th (-1.47)
Detroit Red Wings: 1st to 3rd (-1.25)
St. Louis Blues: 16th to 26th (-1.04)

Getting Older

Washington Capitals: 25th to 9th (+1.72)
San Jose Sharks: 24th to 8th (+1.33)
Edmonton Oilers: 29th to 21st (+1.32)
New Jersey Devils: 8th to 2nd (+1.31)
Colorado Avalanche: 10th to 5th (+0.93)

Some of these numbers could still change: The Falconer doesn't have Joe Sakic in the Colorado figure, and one Michael Nylander trade could change the Capitals' number in a hurry. Since we're dealing with averages, any veteran dump or acquisition by a team is going to reconfigure their overall age; witness the dramatic shift for the Kings and Sharks based on Rob Blake.

The Falconer states a few findings based on the research. The projected youngest team in the NHL this season is the Chicago Blackhawks with an average of 25.8 years old; note that none of the bottom five in ages last season qualified for the Stanley Cup playoffs. But they did lead the League in Gary Roberts yelling at them to get off his lawn.

Falconer writes that teams "risk a performance collapse at some point if they cannot integrate younger players into their core." This is second nature to the Red Wings; for a team like the Calgary Flames, however, he "might be a bit worried."

Of particular interest: Western Conference playoff teams tend to be older than teams in the East. With the constant complaints about the unfair travel disadvantages facing the West, you'd figure teams might go a little younger in order to handle the rigorous schedule.

Or maybe Chelios just has too many frequent flier miles to ignore ...

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  1. lyle s
    1. Posted by lyle s Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:59 pm EDT

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    the best part is ....isnt it the sharks fans here that usually call the red wings old....i dont know im a ducks fan...just observing..
  2. Dj Covert
    2. Posted by Dj Covert Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:11 pm EDT

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    avs are not old
  3. Dj Covert
    3. Posted by Dj Covert Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:11 pm EDT

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    Ok sakic foote forsburg
  4. Jon A
    4. Posted by Jon A Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:11 pm EDT

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    @ lyle s: you know it doesn't really matter AT ALL if people think the wings are old. ALL that matters is winning. AND THE RED WINGS HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT!!! When you find a hockey league that you can win championships for having under 21 year olds all on your team please let me know.
  5. diehard_wings_fan134096
    5. Posted by diehard_wings_fan134096 Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:43 pm EDT

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    nah lyle its every team.....usually though its the avs fans who throw the "deadwings" line out there.....
  6. Matt
    6. Posted by Matt Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:18 pm EDT

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    Well yeah, losing 85 year old Glen Wesley's going to drop the Canes' number quite a bit!
  7. Michael
    7. Posted by Michael Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:19 pm EDT

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    It's ok if a team is older, as older players are almost always good players. Bad players don't get to stick around and become older players.
  8. Jay
    8. Posted by Jay Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:43 pm EDT

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    Or Dead Things line. All I know is the oldest team in the league won it last year and are in good shape to win a few more. Age doesn't matter, what matters is if your team has the RIGHT or WRONG players.
    BTW, The Avs still stink.
  9. The Planet
    9. Posted by The Planet Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:48 pm EDT

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    Shark Fans... We love our Sharks.
    I like what #7 Said.
  10. hound
    10. Posted by hound Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:21 pm EDT

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    Wow that Kings fans is just crazy...its nice to see the Blues getting younger, but it would be nice to see a couple veterans that knew how to handle the pressure
  11. Jon A
    11. Posted by Jon A Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:11 pm EDT

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    Yeah KINGSRULE has some issues. I mean hats off to him for sticking by his team over 20 years through thick and thin but he is sadly delusional in that he thinks all wings fans are bandwagoners. He forgets that some people have been Wings fans "for over 20 years" like myself. Can I get an encore on that? Is Michelle F or CUP#12 in the house???
  12. NicholasG
    12. Posted by NicholasG Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:14 pm EDT

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    Yeah, good on KINGSRULE. It's nice to know the Kings have at least one season ticket holder left...
    Memo in support of Jon A: Detroit isn't called HockeyTown for nothing. Very, very few "bandwagon" fans in Michigan.
    And most of the older Sharks fans, like myself, have been fans of Bay Area hockey since Charlie Hodges first stepped between the pipes and Kent Douglas scored the first goal in Oakland Seals history.
  13. lyle s
    13. Posted by lyle s Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:59 pm EDT

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    #4jon- amen good sir!!! i totally agree with you.
  14. stoneyboloney
    14. Posted by stoneyboloney Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:48 pm EDT

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    i'll tell you whats old, you winey red wing fans who have to comment everyday about how great you are. thanx for legace you chumps. I BLEED BLUE!
  15. Daniel V
    15. Posted by Daniel V Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:52 pm EDT

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    If prune juice and Matlock reruns gets the Devils a return trip to the Cup finals, bring it on! Bringing Holik and Rolston back were 2 great signings, and Shanahan is a good possibility to return too. They need some real veteran leadership and tough play, which all 3 guys bring to the team.
  16. Chippewa29
    16. Posted by Chippewa29 Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:23 pm EDT

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    Right Jon A. I live 20 miles from the Red Wings and I'm 30 years old plus I have been an Red Wings Fan since I was 3 years old watching with my Dad, Mom, Grandpa, and my big sister. I am an Red Wings Fan for Life, Oh the Red Wings were bad in 1980's but I was still standing by them as an loyal #1 Fan !!!!
  17. Fin-atic
    17. Posted by Fin-atic Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:25 pm EDT

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    Why would the Sharks have any bandwagon fans? We haven't even won a cup or for that matter - appeared in a Stanley Cup Final yet! As a long time California hockey fan I have to salute Kingsrule for sticking with it, but he should aim his ire at the avalanche fans instead of the Sharks. I live in Washington now, but you should see the looks I get at Canucks games with a Sharks jersey. Priceless! To me all hockey is good hockey - just enjoy the sport.
  18. Sliding Pokecheck
    18. Posted by Sliding Pokecheck Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:05 pm EDT

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    Ironic that the "Canes" are getting younger.
    Get it?! I'll be here all week.
  19. Mike
    19. Posted by Mike Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:19 pm EDT

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    I'm a Red Wings fan going on 45 years
  20. Hank
    20. Posted by Hank Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:23 pm EDT

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    kingsfan i feel sorry for you. i'm from orange county so before the 93-94 season i too was a kings fan and thank god disney put a team in anaheim. and of course i'll take the ducks over the rams any day
  21. flynnstallion
    21. Posted by flynnstallion Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:01 pm EDT

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    Wings haters only use terms like "deadwings" or "bandwagon fans" because there isn't anything else they could possibly say. Oh and ROFL at the "thanks for legace" comment. We clearly miss him.
    GO WINGS!
  22. na
    22. Posted by na Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:34 pm EDT

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    This guy must have had Chelios still starting even though he wont be. Hasek and Drake retiring is probably the reason Detroit dropped 1.25 years, but Chelios will only be playing a limited number of games so I think that number should be bigger.
  23. michael e
    23. Posted by michael e Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:12 pm EDT

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    Sorry #21, every mighty quacks fan is a bandwaggoner. Either you didn't know what hockey was before disney made it magical, or you bailed out on your team, the kings. I live in Phoenix now, and will always be a kings fan, PERIOD!
  24. Audrey
    24. Posted by Audrey Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:53 pm EDT

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    Hey kingsrule wings fans definetly not fair weather fans, even though I here lived in Minnesota all my life and stuck with my red wings even when there was no nhl here! If that makes me a bandwagoneer after 25 years of loyalty then so be it
  25. Gary
    25. Posted by Gary Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:21 pm EDT

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    Alright obviously the kings fan makes no sense what so ever since I have been a die hard sharks fan for about 15 years now and obviously Im not going to bandwagon them at a record of 15-67 if that was the case I would be a wings fan because they are always putting a good team on the ice, which is probably the reason why so many fans of other teams call wings fans bandwagon fans. Of course Im not going to target every Wings fan this because some have been fans their entire life and live in the Detroit area but when you find somebody that hasnt even been to Michigan thats when it becomes a lot easier to call them bandwagon fans which seems to be the case for most.

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