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Leahy reported here yesterday that the Montreal Canadiens are considering playing a regular season game at Olympic Stadium in Dec. 2009, as part of their centennial celebration; and that the contest may very well be played with an open roof, Winter Classic-style.

Dave Stubbs of Canwest picks up the story today and reports that the Canadiens are in the early planning stages for the event, and that the Dec. 4 game marking the team's 100th birthday may not in fact be played at the former home to the Montreal Expos:

The Canadiens say there's not a strong link, for now, between that Dec. 4 game and one at Olympic Stadium. "A game (at the Big O) is a project that we've discussed with the RIO," Canadiens vice-president Donald Beauchamp said Wednesday of talks the club has had with the stadium's provincial-government landlord. "That's as far as the project has gone."

While this project could obviously go the way of a Winter Classic at Yankee Stadium, the early momentum on this indicates at least a willingness to make Stade Olympique relevant for the first time since Pedro Martínez was traded.

Would this outdoor game take the place of one in the U.S. on New Year's Day 2010? Would this game's proximity to the holiday cause the NHL to move its traditional Winter Classic to later in the season, as Stan Fischler predicted recently? How would that work in the context of the 2010 Vancouver Olympics?

Perhaps the most critical question: Would hockey fans embrace two Winter Classics per season, so Canadian fans can get in on the fun?

The Winter Classic exists for the same reason the Tony Awards exist: It's an opportunity to get your niche product on U.S. national television in front of casual fan eyes, while earning a moment of cultural relevance validated by the Nielsen overnights. The only difference being the complete lack of either David Hyde Pierce or Nathan Lane at the Winter Classic ...

To satisfy that first aim in the U.S., you need teams that can draw (like the Red Wings or the Penguins) in a venue of some cultural importance: Snowy Buffalo, historic Wrigley or Yankee Stadium or Fenway Park. (Still say Boston Bruins/New York Rangers at Fenway would be outrate 99 percent of the college bowl games.) 

To satisfy that second aim, the U.S. ratings, you can't schedule a Canadian team in the Winter Classic.

If you schedule the Toronto Maple Leafs and the Detroit Red Wings somewhere in Michigan, it's just like any other NHL telecast in the U.S.: The monster ratings in Toronto won't count in the American numbers, so you're limiting the measurable audience. The mainstream media doesn't care about that nuance -- just like it didn't while pissing on hockey during the Calgary Flames' and Edmonton Oilers' appearances in the Stanley Cup finals -- and suddenly the NHL is answering questions about why ratings for the game fell dramatically from year to year.

The Winter Classic might still draw good numbers with the Leafs or the Canadiens playing in an American stadium. But the rest of Canada's teams will never, ever see themselves in a Winter Classic. Unless we start scheduling annual, or perhaps every-other-year, Winter Classics in open-air Canadian venues, that is.

Would this dilute the brand? No, because the Canadian Edition Winter Classics will most likely be bound for Versus in early December rather than NBC on New Year's Day, and the casual fans won't feel overwhelmed because they won't be watching it anyway.

Plus, the gimmick of the U.S. Winter Classic will continue to be a combination of compelling teams playing in interesting venues. A Canadian Winter Classic in Olympic Stadium is not going to reduce the interest for the Philadelphia Flyers and the Pittsburgh Penguins facing off at Penn State.

This Montreal Canadiens game will likely be a one-off stunt next December in honor of the anniversary. But if the Battle of Alberta wants to rage in McMahon Stadium come 2011, one month before the next U.S. version of the Winter Classic is played, then that's good for hockey. Because these outdoor games are rather awesome.

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  1. jlarugger
    1. Posted by jlarugger Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:36 pm EDT

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    Last!!
  2. bostonblueline.blogspot.com
    2. Posted by bostonblueline.blogspot.com Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:14 pm EDT

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    No, hockey fans couldn't handle two Winter Classics. This is a ridiculous idea from the get-go and it'll become even more ridiculous when every team wants to do this every year. The Habs' 100th b-day is a neat occasion, but it doesn't overrule the need for a unified league-wide plan in regard to outdoor games.
    http://bostonblueline.blogspot.com
  3. Jon A
    3. Posted by Jon A Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:11 pm EDT

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    I never really thought the Winter Classic was such a cool idea anyway.
  4. miqaelee
    4. Posted by miqaelee Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:50 pm EDT

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    Oh hail yyyeah.......drop da puck!!
  5. exwhaler
    5. Posted by exwhaler Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:44 pm EDT

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    How about this: replace the All-Star game with the Winter Classic. Hockey's a team sport more than any other, and the All-Star game has become a complete washout. So, a Winter Classic weekend with a legends game and the Stanley Cup winner pitted against the host city (say, Original Six teams for starters). It'll be a hell of a lot more interesting to the general public than the All-Star (as television ratings show), and it won't add to the wear and tear of the regular season, since it'll just part of the schedule.
  6. slammmguy
    6. Posted by slammmguy Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:26 pm EDT

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    True hockey fans will want this....Bring on the games!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  7. Billkamm
    7. Posted by Billkamm Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:26 pm EDT

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    1 winter classic on new year's day. That is what I want to see. Make it a tradition. If you have more than one a year it loses its luster
  8. carl_vs_mastershake
    8. Posted by carl_vs_mastershake Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:18 pm EDT

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    Winter Classic is a gimic. Like glowing pucks on not as bad. If they just have 1 I'll live as long as my team never has to play in it. If they want 2 they should use the All-Star it is already a joke
  9. Joe
    9. Posted by Joe Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:35 pm EDT

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    Having 2 would take away from the novelty of having one... one per year is enough if not too much.
  10. DC
    10. Posted by DC Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:21 pm EDT

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    hmmmm, oddly, I took the Olympic Stadium tour last week and the tour guide said the roof is fiberglass and no longer removable. he also said they couldn't get insurance to have events in the stadium in winter because of an accident at a car show a few years ago involving a car getting impaled by ice.
  11. knucklehead
    11. Posted by knucklehead Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:37 pm EDT

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    Gimmics are coool......heh..hehheh.....hehe.....
  12. Jb8810
    12. Posted by Jb8810 Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:30 pm EDT

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    Anyone really care if it's a gimmick? The games need to be played anyway, so does the venue count? It's supposed to generate fan interest and bring hockey to otherwise non-hockey watching people. I'm totally on board with this. Let each team play at an offsite - neutral venue. Sounds cool and I'm waiting for the Flyers to play in one of these outdoor games.
  13. NYR10LSC
    13. Posted by NYR10LSC Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:13 pm EDT

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    One winter classic only. That being said, if a team wishes to celebrate 100 years, retiring a players #, a Stanley Cup win then they should do it as they see fit. How is it differnt then the NYR and TB starting the season in freakin Prague.
  14. 9
    14. Posted by 9 Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:22 pm EDT

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    Let's revert to pre-pro hockey times, and play ALL the games outdoors again. See who the real diehard "fans" are. BYO hot toddy, Carhartts and Sorels. LOL
    Then, the blogs and babble would be all about the "novelty" of playing indoors! "OMG, they even have HOT food! And running water in the lavatories!" What a modern concept...
  15. Vince S
    15. Posted by Vince S Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:22 pm EDT

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    Seriously, is this even a question worth answering? Aside from the southern teams (where climate is an issue), I guaran-damnt-ty that EVERY fanbase would love to see a winter classic. Having two a year would be perfect. How hard is it to entertain the long standing rivalries in hockey with two winter classics a year? Penn/Philly, NYR/NYI, BOS/MTL, TOR/BUF, DET/CHI, COL/DET, etc etc. Really, does anyone thing that by having two of these games a year in a 70,000+ stadium could possibly be a bad thing? Does anyone think that none of these matchups wouldn't sell out?
    Hockey can most certainly handle two winter classics a year, trust me.
  16. 5 4 fighting
    16. Posted by 5 4 fighting Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:01 pm EDT

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    Not sure-before GW or after GW(global warming)?But IMHO one a year should be the norm.
  17. Bubbabanjo
    17. Posted by Bubbabanjo Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:05 pm EDT

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    This isnt an issue. The Canucks dont recognize the south of the border teams as legit. They want their own. And they did the original which was awesome in that frozen stadium.
    One is Canadian and won USA. I saw one game up there in Motreal where the fans skated in cause everything was frozen. Now thats impressive.
    Wyshynski you stink!
  18. commit to the indian
    18. Posted by commit to the indian Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:17 pm EDT

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    I personally think the Winter Classic will eventually go by the wayside. I think the players union will step in once a serious injury occurs do to horrendous ice conditions, freezing temperatures etc. I understand they grew up playing outdoors in the freezing cold from sunup to sundown but guess what they were kids then and kids will do anything!! I don't think we should get used to this because it's just a gimmick.
  19. mclea22
    19. Posted by mclea22 Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:13 pm EDT

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    it would be a graet idea i think personalllly
  20. Tim
    20. Posted by Tim Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:51 pm EDT

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    For God sakes do what I have been saying for months: Rangers-Bruins at Fenway 12:00; Red Wings-Blackhawks at Wrigley 4:00; Maple Leafs-Canadiens at Olympic Stadium 8:00
    You get the Original 6 playing outdoors in the same day and HNIC gets the primetime matchup. Then we can take a break for a few years.
  21. Shaunny Vegas
    21. Posted by Shaunny Vegas Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:17 pm EDT

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    I do!! the original 6 rocks!! lets go wings!!
  22. Jason
    22. Posted by Jason Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:01 pm EDT

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    I want to see Flyers Vs Pens at Penn State!!!!!!!
  23. brock
    23. Posted by brock Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:13 pm EDT

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    Hockey is a non entity in the U.S. television market and I wish the NHL would get used to it! Its a ticket based market so lets dispense with trying to please a televised game that no one watches. Bring the game back to Canada, QC,Hamilton,Winnipeg and another team in the Toronto area. Drop the losers in the US like Nashville,Carolina, Florida. American hockey fans are just as loyal and devoted as Canadians but they go to the games and do not watch tv games.
  24. sburleigh
    24. Posted by sburleigh Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:06 pm EDT

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    I live in CT & am a Bruin & Yankee fan. I would love to go to this game, but on New Years Day? No thanks! Once again, Gary Bettman and the NHL are just daring you to be a fan.
  25. Bubbabanjo
    25. Posted by Bubbabanjo Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:05 pm EDT

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    Ya'll stay home.....us fans love it and will go. Your right. You tird blossums dont watch hockey. Thats why it doesnt stink. It hasnt been ruined yet by mass market snapper heads. Watch yer Oprah reruns. The Tostitos Toilet bowl....or whatever you grinches do on New Years. Who needs ya. Us enlightened necks love it.
    Wyshynski you stink!

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