Browns Team Report

INSIDE SLANT

Eric Mangini’s difficult season continues.

Sunday the Browns had a game won about six different times yet still managed to lose after giving up a touchdown and extra point on untimed plays after time had expired.

A pass interference penalty on Hank Poteat(notes) set up the untimed downs, but Mangini’s in-game decisions didn’t help the cause.

First, Mangini called for a pass on third-and-5 on the first play after the two-minute warning. Detroit was out of timeouts, so just running the clock seemed a much wiser decision.

Then, as Detroit lined up to run the untimed down with backup quarterback Daunte Culpepper(notes) under center, Mangini called timeout from the sidelines.

He wanted to make sure his defense was set, but the timeout allowed the Lions to put starter Matt Stafford in the game. He promptly threw the game-winning touchdown pass.

After the game, Mangini would not admit Poteat’s blatant interference call, then hinted that the Lions faked injuries to slow down the Browns no-huddle offense.

The loss, the decisions, the complaints—none of it will help a 1-9 coach be any less beleaguered.

NOTES, QUOTES

—db H  ank Poteat said he didn’t think he interfered with Bryant Johnson(notes) in the back of the end zone on Detroit’s last play, but the film showed otherwise. Tape of the last pass showed Poteat “blocking” Johnson out of the back of the end zone—with the ball in the air.

That’s a penalty, and two officials recognized it and threw flags for pass interference. The Browns complained about the call.

“My understanding is, once the quarterback’s out of the pocket, you can force the receiver out of bounds, and that’s what I was trying to do,” said Poteat. “That’s what I was always coached to do.”

• QB Brady Quinn(notes) had an outstanding game against one of the league’s poorer defenses. Quinn threw for four touchdowns and 304 yards, and had the Browns in position to win. It’s a game that should put Quinn back on firmer ground with the team, especially its future.

He threw downfield, he looked comfortable and he ran the offense well.

Given a chance to run a complete game plan, Quinn played very well and very efficiently. It was the first and best game by a Browns quarterback this season.

“We didn’t win, though,” Quinn said. “So you’re never happy when you don’t get a win.”

STRATEGY AND PERSONNEL

Player Notes  

• WR Mohamed Massaquoi(notes) had an excellent game facing a porous Lions defense. Massaquoi’s five-reception day went for 115 yards and included a 59-yard touchdown.

• WR Chansi Stuckey(notes) came out of mothballs to catch five passes, including a 40-yard touchdown. It was his best game as a Brown. Stuckey had been near invisible since being acquired from the Jets.

• TE Michael Gaines(notes) made an excellent catch and scored on a late touchdown that appeared would give the Browns a victory. Gaines outfought a linebacker for the ball, then fought his way into the end zone.

• CB Eric Wright(notes) had an interception and nice return but said the Browns defense was simply not good enough against Matt Stafford. “We made him look like Peyton Manning(notes),” Wright scoffed.

• KR Josh Cribbs did not miss any time despite taking a shot to the neck in the final play against Baltimore. Cribbs played the entire game against the Lions, and though he did not do much on returns he did catch a TD pass and had an outstanding run on a quick WR screen.

Report Card Vs  . LIONS

Passing Offense:   A—For the first time this season the Browns had a legitimate passing offense. Brady Quinn threw short, middle and down-the-field in rolling up 304 yards. Yes, the Lions were the opponent, but the Browns have not taken advantage of other weak opponents this season. Quinn’s four-touchdown, 304-yard game stands on its merits, and puts him back in the team’s quarterback picture—assuming he follows this game with more good ones.

Rushing Offense:   B—The Browns didn’t need to run the ball, but when they did they ran well. Cleveland totaled 131 yards on 40 carries, and were successful with every back they used. With Brady Quinn throwing so well the run game was not essential, but it was productive.

Pass Defense:   F—It fits the Browns that on the day they find their long-lost offense, they lose their defense. How bad was it that the Browns allowed Matt Stafford to throw five touchdown passes? So bad that it hasn’t happened since 1937. That’s the last time a rookie had that many TD throws. The Browns had a 24-3 lead, and the reason they lost the game was the pass defense was non-existent. One play summed up the game: A short toss in the flat to running back Kevin Smith(notes) on the game’s first play turned into a 62-yard gain because nobody bothered to cover Smith.

Rush Defense:   B—Detroit didn’t try to run a lot because they were throwing so effectively, and when they did they didn’t do a ton of damage. The Browns defense limited the Lions to 57 yards on 17 carries, but it was more or less irrelevant because anytime the Lions needed a play in the passing game they usually found it.

Special Teams:   B—The Browns were without Dave Zastudil(notes), but Reggie Hodges(notes) had an outstanding game replacing him. Hodges averaged 37.2 yards per kick, and had four downed inside the 20-yard-line. He did an excellent job replacing the Browns MVP. That was the special teams highlight, as the Browns return game didn’t do much and Phil Dawson’s(notes) day was blemished by a kickoff out of bounds.

Coaching:   D—The Browns came to play against the Lions, and their offensive plan was (finally) right on the money. They gave Brady Quinn a complete game plan and he ran the offense well. They ran the ball for more than 100 yards and threw for more than 300. Problem was the team’s defense was AWOL and the sideline decisions in the final couple minutes cost them a win. Instead of running clock and running the ball right after the two-minute warning, Eric Mangini had his team pass. This gave Detroit another minute for its final drive. Then, Mangini called out with Daunte Culpepper under center on Detroit’s final play. Not only did that allow the Lions to get re-organized, it allowed starting QB Matt Stafford back into the game.

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  1. <i>oldcracker_51</i>
    233. Posted by oldcracker_51 Fri Nov 20 3:22am EST

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    The Clowns have an offensive coordinator? Damn!
  2. Michael
    232. Posted by Michael Thu Nov 19 10:57am EST

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    I second the vote for Rob Ryan as head coach. If we can't get Gruden, Ryan is our best reasonable hope. His defense has shown that they're willing to give everything and not stop until the final whistle even though they're outclassed. They don't give up on their coordinator like the offense has.

    Here's a thought, how about have Rob Ryan call the offensive and defensive plays? Who better to take a defense apart than someone that completely understands one. Besides, he can motivate the offense as well. It can be any worse than Daboll.
  3. bob b
    231. Posted by bob b Wed Nov 18 11:15am EST

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    I would love to see Rob Ryan as head coach - The Cleveland Browns defense lacks quality players (even semi-competent ones) at many of the positions and they are playing their hearts out for this man! I see nothing even close on the offensive side of the ball (Mangini/Dabol)

    The defense has played consistantly above their level of talent/experience and have actually kept this team somewhat competitive until they tire out after all the time they are required to be on the field due to this lame excuse for an offensive (and that is being tactful and generous)

    It would be great to see if Ryan could get the same level of commitment out of the offensive players that he does the D players. The players clearly do not play hard for Mangini.
  4. <i>zardpocleeb</i>
    230. Posted by zardpocleeb Wed Nov 18 7:54am EST

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    Brady Quinn might do better under a different offensive coordinator. Brian Daboll has to go! He doesn't have a clue what he's doing. Either way, with recievers running wrong patterns, we're doomed!
  5. STEVEN
    229. Posted by STEVEN Tue Nov 17 4:01pm EST

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    Bottom line is, Brady Quinn ,deserves a season or two to develop into his position, before a qualified decision could be made on his progress. With that being said, Tom Brady , Peyton Manning , or Drew Brees, would look bad with Clevelands existing offense. Mangini traded our playmakers away. So, Brady is not the problem. Theres no one making plays for the Browns, so to blame BQ would be inane. If anyone is at fault, its management.
  6. Michelle G.
    228. Posted by Michelle G. Fri Nov 13 9:49pm EST

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    I can not wait until that exciting browns/lions matchup next sunday 11/22. Is it possible for both teams to have negative points? First one to break even at zero wins game. Think it's safe to say that these two franchises are amongst the two worst in the league. Go IRISH!!

    Michelle G.
  7. <i>rmb3005</i>
    227. Posted by rmb3005 Thu Nov 12 6:26am EST

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    Post 226, your comments have got to be the most logical that i've read regarding the Browns out of ANYTHING that's been posted about this article or any other.
  8. <i>namvet888</i>
    226. Posted by namvet888 Tue Nov 10 8:57am EST

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    Seems Browns fans have poor short-term memories. For five years, we didn't have an NFL team in Cleveland until Al Lerner brought the Browns back in 1999. When he died, son Randy inherited the team. He obviously doesn't know how to hire "real" football men to run the operation, but he's learning (maybe) and I give him credit for admitting his shortcomings. I remember watching the Browns on black and white TV - before Jim Brown was drafted for the 1957 season - when the Browns, Lions and Giants dominated the NFL. That was Paul Brown's gig. PB was a tyrant coach too, but unlike Mangini, he knew football and how to field a winner having come up through the college coaching ranks. Despite the gut feeling that it was a mistake, I thought Mangini should be given a couple years to rebuild this team. However, it's apparent already he's still a ball boy. Despite the lousy stats, I think the defense has shown some improvement this year. But they're worn out by the fourth quarter because the offense is usually three-and-punt. That offensive coordinator (what's his name?), like Mangini, has no football smarts and no imagination. The defensive coordinator (Ryan) came from another dysfunctional franchise, but he has passion, potential and seems to know something about the game. I'd like to see Lerner hire a competent GM ASAP who will immediately fire Mangini and Draboll, promote Ryan to interim head coach, and spend the rest of this miserable 2009 season searching for a legitimate head coach. There are plenty of excellent veteran candidates out there right now (Hulmgren, Dungy, Gruden, Shanahan, Cowher, et. al.) as well as some good assistants. We Browns fans are the most die-hard in the NFL, but we're dyin' hard. Pro football is entertainment. If the product stinks, don't buy tickets until Lerner either gets a clue or sells out. But remember Modell. A new owner might move the franchise to LA.
  9. <i>airexec4u</i>
    225. Posted by airexec4u Sat Nov 7 9:40am EST

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    I've been a browns fan since I went to see Jim Brown and the boys back in 1964. This is as bad as I can remember. This team needs an attitude. Instead of the wildcat they should try to run the "mad dog" and get out there and knock somebody on their ass!
  10. 35start
    224. Posted by 35start Fri Nov 6 9:55am EST

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    Trade all your top stars away and 1-7 is what happens... I'm sure they'll get rid of Josh Cribbs and Brady Quinn and the abyss will get deeper. What a sorry franchise.
  11. LJB
    223. Posted by LJB Fri Nov 6 8:22am EST

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    Hey Tony - the Gators would embarass the Browns - 84 to 3
  12. Don J
    222. Posted by Don J Thu Nov 5 6:58pm EST

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    Its [;ain, and simlple, The Cleveland Hounds, just cannot afford, Brady Quinn, maybe they will trade him, to a team, that will let him play, and hopefully, he comes back, to haunt the cleveland, Hounds..
  13. Big Daddy
    221. Posted by Big Daddy Thu Nov 5 12:38pm EST

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    I have been a Browns fan for almost 40 years. I cannot turn my back on them but I can sure jump on the bandwagon of the team like the Saints for awhile just to remember what it was like in the late 80's and early 90's again. I have all the hope in the world that something will click somewhere, whether it is Lerner, Mangini or the players and they figure this out.
  14. robert
    220. Posted by robert Sun Nov 1 1:31am EDT

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    Cheap scape LEARNER does not want to pay out 10.7 million when his team and I mean HIS team is 1-6 and going nowhere. He will not make light that he made a mistake, that every one else seemed to know, hiring Mangini. Even my computer does not like that word MANGINI!! No wonder he was fired. Then for all you fans he just puts manure on the field and expects you to pay for it. I think you fans in Ohio should boycott the whole game on national TV. to get every ones attention!! LEARNER really does not care he counts the nickles and dimes you people pay to see a cheap triple x team. You would get more out of a Sunday taking your wives out to dinner, instead of being upset after paying the outlandish price to watch LEARNER"S team make idiots out of you fans. I am convinced that is how he sees it and that is the way it will be till you all stay home.
  15. N/A
    219. Posted by N/A Sat Oct 31 6:25pm EDT

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    Hey maybe we can go for 2 field goals tomorrow!!! Go Clowns....I mean browns!
  16. Gary
    218. Posted by Gary Sat Oct 31 8:26am EDT

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    Anderson's QB rating is 40, Quinn's is 62.4. We can only assume the Browns don't want to pay the bonus OR there's something personal between Quinn and someone significant in the Browns organization. That's too bad. They've taken the best fans in the NFL and turned their backs on them.
  17. susan h
    217. Posted by susan h Wed Oct 28 5:34pm EDT

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    Who cares anymore
  18. Jack
    216. Posted by Jack Wed Oct 28 3:31pm EDT

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    Dale - In order for Lewis to touch the ball 25+ times, that would mean that the Browns would need to KEEP the ball for more than 2 minutes at a time. Their ability to control the ball and keep defenses on the field is atrocious. They need more than just a couple pieces to field even a "respectable" team. And by respectable, I mean 6-7 wins!

    As long as Mangini is the coach and continues with the personnel that he is using, 6 wins is a fantasy! Reality is more like 2-3 wins.
  19. Dale
    215. Posted by Dale Tue Oct 27 12:42pm EDT

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    The Browns just need to plug a couple of decent folks into the offensive line and pound the ball. They have a ridiculously high win % when Lewis touches the ball 25 times. 10 -15 times isn't gonna cut it. The more he touches it, the better he gets as he pounds defenses into mistakes and the Browns come out victorious.
  20. <i>dr_watson_12</i>
    214. Posted by dr_watson_12 Tue Oct 27 11:39am EDT

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    Brady Quinn is not playing because the Browns do not want to pay him contract incentives, one of which reportedly kicks in if he plays 70% of the offensive snaps. Once that point in the season has passed beyond which he can't play that many snaps factoring in the % of snaps he's already played, perhaps he'll play again. This situation will become clearer in a few weeks.

    Mangini has immunity this season as he puts his system & players in place. Time will tell if that immunity pass carries him past the end of next season.

    In this economy if NFL millionaire players strike & attempt to blame the owners, or the owners attempt to hang the players, the NFL may be in audience trouble. I'd be surprised if another CBA isn't agreed upon soon.
  21. Tony
    213. Posted by Tony Sat Oct 24 9:20pm EDT

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    Do you think the Florida Gators would beat the Browns?
  22. akronjoe
    212. Posted by akronjoe Sat Oct 24 4:37pm EDT

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    Fantastic...Now they have an excuse to lose the game. Mangini will not get the blame, but he will blame the Flu bug. I wonder if he should fine the players that got the flu. He might try...
  23. J.B.
    211. Posted by J.B. Sat Oct 24 10:48am EDT

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    IMHO - scrap the whole dang team except for cribbs and rogers and the kickers and start over already!!!! scrap the gm and coach also...makes me sick to listen to the mandummy talk....no emotion...does he even care that he's looking at 1-15 right now? if he does, he needs to talk and act like it!!! makes me sick! And i don't know if i can bear hearing "clay matthews on the tackle" this week without puking violently!
    #1 - it reminds me that they were once prett darn good and that i saw his dad catch that int in the Staduim against the Bills. greatest football game i ever saw live...
    #2 - reminds me that of another pick they totally whiffed on. the kid is great and will show it to them Sunday! he shoulda been a Brown. if the kid even has 1/2 of his dads character, he's still a better asset than most of the current team!!! IDIOTS!!!!
  24. Mark
    210. Posted by Mark Fri Oct 23 5:26pm EDT

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    Daboll is incompetent & totally over his head, I say let Kosar give it a shot , he can't do any worse .
  25. <i>meveman</i>
    209. Posted by meveman Fri Oct 23 10:24am EDT

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    Too bad Mangini and Daboll don't have the flu...maybe something positive would happen. I have been a Browns fan my whole life (over 40 years) and, with Mangini, I am seriously considering dropping the Browns. Since his flip flop with Quinn, I have not flown my Browns flag on Sunday for as long as i can remember. With Anderson, you get exactly what he has delivered his entire pro career...inconsisitency. Look at the defenses he has played against vs Quinn. No comparison and Quinn still has better numbers.

    FIRE MANGINI!!!!!!!!!
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