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Mon Nov 02, 2009 12:59 pm EST

You did not deserve that, Packers fans

I didn't include the Green Bay Packers in yesterday's Cry, Whine and Moan feature, because I felt like it was a special kind of loss that deserved its own post.

Not that it was the most painful loss of all-time or anything, but it was certainly unique in how it was painful. Most of us will never see our hero, arguably the best player in the history of our franchise, come back in the colors of our arch-rival and then destroy us, cementing the fact that his new football team is now clearly better than his old one.

That just doesn't happen. Not on this level, with a player of that magnitude, between rivals so bitter.

I feel bad for Packers fans. Not because of who I blame for anything that's happened -- blame doesn't really matter anymore. Blame Brett Favre(notes), Ted Thompson, global warming or Emmanual Lewis if you really want to. No matter who's at fault, Packers fans just suffered a loss that packed some serious sting. Forty-five% say it's the toughest loss Packers fans have ever had to deal with.

Karma failed us. After everything that's happened, all the breathless media reports, all the spin, all the lies, all the hurt feelings ... Brett Favre gets to come out on top, both times? This time, in your own front yard? That is not right. That is not just.

Packers fans deserved to win at least one of those games, and it seems cruel that they didn't get to. All they got was to see Favre leaving their field, with his hands raised high in victory.

I guess "deserve" is a concept that doesn't apply here, though. Things happened the way they did because Minnesota has a better football team. They have a better defense and a better running attack. In this case, that means they win. It sucks, but that's how it works.

The reaction in Green Bay today seems surprisingly pragmatic, though. The Packers blogs are worried about things like their head coach, Aaron Rodgers, Johnny Jolly, and Dom Capers (naughty language alert for that last one). Like pretty much every other team out there. The newspapers are a little more Favre-y, but there's just as much focus on things like Cullen Jenkins roasting Dom Capers, and the differences in the rest of the Green Bay and Minnesota rosters.

I'm sure there's a lot of frustration and anger behind all that, too. You have my sympathies, Packer fans. No group of fans should have to go through that, and then get denied satisfaction twice.

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  1. Sugar Daddy
    1. Posted by Sugar Daddy Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:11 pm EST

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    I call FIRST!!!!! :)
  2. Steffen S
    2. Posted by Steffen S Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:13 pm EST

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    Thanks MJD. We're feeling a like the whole country is piling on right now
  3. Mark
    3. Posted by Mark Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:13 pm EST

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    C'mon. Get off it already. FAVRE gave Green Bay his blood for most of his professional career. Evidently it wasn't enough for the GB front office, who was ready to put him out to pasture. Well, HE wanted to play, they didn't want him to play. Pretty basic. So you take an ALL Pro quarterback and put him out to pasture. Obviously it was a BIG mistake. Fess up, and get beyond it. Maybe he will retire after this season and GB can get back to winning a division. Don't blame Favre for wanting to play, and thats exactly what GB fans are doing. Get over it!
  4. Mr. Winters
    4. Posted by Mr. Winters Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:14 pm EST

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    Pack fans got PWN'd.
  5. the_strandman
    5. Posted by the_strandman Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:16 pm EST

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    I SECOND that!
  6. Aaron M
    6. Posted by Aaron M Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:18 pm EST

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    Are you kidding? Favre deserved the sweep... screw the fans
  7. Chris B
    7. Posted by Chris B Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:19 pm EST

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    That was a pretty good game yesterday. I was almost certain the Packers would win once they cut the lead to 4 points. Nobody could stop Rogers in the 3rd and first half of the 4th. When the Vikes were 5-0, I didn't think they had played a tough game yet. They took 2 out of 3 from Baltimore, Pittsburgh, and Green Bay in Lambeau. I'd say they're looking pretty good.
  8. swanson_71
    8. Posted by swanson_71 Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:19 pm EST

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    I understand why Green Bay did what they did as far as letting Rodgers start. The 49ers done it with Steve Young, and you have to eventually move on! I know people talks about how Favre keeps coming in and out of retirment and it's annoying, but Michael Jordan has retired 3 times and noone ever said anything about him like they say about Favre! Favre wants to play, Green Bay doesn't want him, so he signs with a team where it's completely balanced where all he has to do is just not screw up and throw the ball around when they need it thrown around! Packers fans choose to cheer for Packers and just because they got there butt spanked twice doesn't mean they deserve better, if anyone has a gripe and deserved better it's the fans who still cheered for the Packers bettween 1969 and 1996!
  9. swanson_71
    9. Posted by swanson_71 Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:19 pm EST

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    I understand why Green Bay did what they did as far as letting Rodgers start. The 49ers done it with Steve Young, and you have to eventually move on! I know people talks about how Favre keeps coming in and out of retirment and it's annoying, but Michael Jordan has retired 3 times and noone ever said anything about him like they say about Favre! Favre wants to play, Green Bay doesn't want him, so he signs with a team where it's completely balanced where all he has to do is just not screw up and throw the ball around when they need it thrown around! Packers fans choose to cheer for Packers and just because they got there butt spanked twice doesn't mean they deserve better, if anyone has a gripe and deserved better it's the fans who still cheered for the Packers bettween 1969 and 1996!
  10. wareragle1107
    10. Posted by wareragle1107 Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:19 pm EST

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    i wholeheartedly agree mark. couldn't have said it any better... u go bret!
  11. jsan77
    11. Posted by jsan77 Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:21 pm EST

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    First of all, I'm not a Packers fan, but would they have won the game with Bret Favre? Yes, because the Vikings did not have a legitimate quarterback that teams feared. Is going with Rogers the best move for the Packers? Without a doubt!!!! He will be a great quarterback in the futer. Favre has 1 or 2 years left, so why not get Rogers the reps he needs. Now, with that said, get the kid a front line to protect him before you ruin his career before it starts....Hold tight Packer fans, your time is coming.
  12. Eric
    12. Posted by Eric Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:22 pm EST

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    Why was Ahman Green Returning kicks?? Thats just Stupid... Min dominated the field position all day long
  13. Bernie
    13. Posted by Bernie Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:23 pm EST

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    I use to be a Favre fan but I guess I put most of the blame for what happend on Brett. If he had some out and said, "I don't want to go through training and will just show up for the season" that would have been honest. I think he jacked the packer around, lied, and treated a team which has been good to him like dirt. Good ridance and I will jump with joy when he throws the interception which seals the Viqueens fate in the playoffs.
  14. Dave
    14. Posted by Dave Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:23 pm EST

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    how can you possibly say the fans who pasionatly booed favre deserved to win one of those games. Thet were outplayed in both games, it wasnt even as close as it seemed in the second game, a lucky fumble and the DE edwards didnt play in the second half and the purple still got pressure on your golden boy. Oh well, just some more whine to go with your ceese.
  15. Dean K
    15. Posted by Dean K Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:27 pm EST

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    Feel bad for Packers fans??!!? REALLY?!? The fans in GB constantly were booing Favre....and for what? His 16 years he put in? The Super Bowl ring? What was it? I understand the booing at the beginning of the game because he's now playing for a different team, but throughout the whole game was a little ridiculous! I feel bad for Favre if anything!
  16. ROIX
    16. Posted by ROIX Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:27 pm EST

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    MJD you should have added yourself to the cry, whine moan secetion because you and Yahoo reporters were so wrong about Brett and the Vikes in the preseason. I never saw so much misinformation except on CNN, FOX and MSNBC.
  17. Randy
    17. Posted by Randy Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:27 pm EST

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    Here we go again, another negative, biased, stupid assed ASSesment of the "pain" caused by Brett Favre. Your over and over and over again hate for Favre is apparent. We get it, OK. You don't like him. Get over it.
    But to apologize to GB Fans. Did you read any of the blogs prior to the game? My God, "We are gonna bury Favre in Lambeau dirt", I could go on and on. Packer fans got what they deserved, a loss at the hands of a better team with a better QB. (Rodgers will be a real force in the div for a long time, he's young, I admit).
    MJD needs to fly to GB and just get the whole cry-a-thon over with.
    In August I got an email from an old flame who's a Packer fan. It had a photo of Favre and the words "MN: Where old qb's go to die". I saved it, and returned it yesterday after letting the playing of the game say it all.
    You should try that.
  18. Randy
    18. Posted by Randy Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:28 pm EST

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    Here we go again, another negative, biased, stupid assed ASSesment of the "pain" caused by Brett Favre. Your over and over and over again hate for Favre is apparent. We get it, OK. You don't like him. Get over it.
    But to apologize to GB Fans. Did you read any of the blogs prior to the game? My God, "We are gonna bury Favre in Lambeau dirt", I could go on and on. Packer fans got what they deserved, a loss at the hands of a better team with a better QB. (Rodgers will be a real force in the div for a long time, he's young, I admit).
    MJD needs to fly to GB and just get the whole cry-a-thon over with.
    In August I got an email from an old flame who's a Packer fan. It had a photo of Favre and the words "MN: Where old qb's go to die". I saved it, and returned it yesterday after letting the playing of the game say it all.
    You should try that.
  19. matt
    19. Posted by matt Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:28 pm EST

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    "All they got was to see Favre leaving their field, with his hands raised high in victory."
    That pretty much sums everything up. I really feel bad now.
  20. Aaron M
    20. Posted by Aaron M Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:29 pm EST

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    Favre killed himself for those ingrates for 16 years and carried them to a Super Bowl TWICE and he did it with less than spectacular rosters considering who he was playing against in the 90's. The Pack front office never supplied him with 5 start talent like the 49ers, Cowboys, Broncos, and Bills gave Young, Aikmen, Elway, and Kelly. Instead they gave him 3-4 star talent and said, see what you can do for us with that. Think of it this way, Pack front offices answer to guys like Jerry Rice, Terrell Davis, Randy Moss, Micheal Irvin, Emmitt Smith, Thurman Thomas, etc.? 3-4 star guys like Edgar Bennett... Dorsey Levens... Antonio Freeman... Bill Schroder... the Packers always low balled Favre when it came to giving him winning parts. THATS why he left.
    Hell, with a roster most people laughed at with NO running game until week 8 when Ryan Grant came along, Favre turned in a 13-3 season. Favre is the BEST QB of all time, yes, better than Montana, Young, Marino, Elway, etc. WHY? Because he did MORE than those guys... with LESS talent around him. Favre didn't have an Emmitt Smith, or a Jerry Rice and still put up numbers. And then they BOO him... in HIS house... if it wasn't for Favre the Packers are NO ONE for the last 16 years...
  21. dagoldeneagle
    21. Posted by dagoldeneagle Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:30 pm EST

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    brett was under contract when he retired so he had the right to come back and play.
    just because he had a tearful retirement conference doesn't mean anything. green bay fans are the most classless jerks ever. if anything, they should be booing ted thompson for being a dumbass.
    the guy gave his blood for the team for 16 years, never missing a game. that's old-school professionalism.
    i got brett's back. he's an american icon and the sort of american hero that has become extinct in the 21st century.
  22. dagoldeneagle
    22. Posted by dagoldeneagle Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:35 pm EST

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    agree with aaron.
    not to mention ryan grant immediately was exposed to be a fraud when rodgers took over.
  23. jsan77
    23. Posted by jsan77 Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:36 pm EST

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    What i thought was funny, was the fans that were booing were wearing number 4 jerseys.....Let it go already
  24. Mark H
    24. Posted by Mark H Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:37 pm EST

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    We got beat.. its over for now. The Bears still Suck and so does Favre. Hope he chokes on it.
  25. Robert B
    25. Posted by Robert B Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:39 pm EST

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    Brett Favre is the best big game quarterback in the game. As long as the big game is during the regular season. Post season he's 3-6 since his last super bowl, with 16 TD's and 18 Int's. He's given 4 of those six losses away with the interceptions.
    Management got rid of him because he's no longer a great big game QB, or even average one, during the play offs.

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