Moore leads No. Boise St. over Bowling Green 49-14

to be continued.

My mistake, Houston 2 Conf USA titles in the last 15 years and several SWC title in the 90s................a few losings seasons in the last 15 years.

Southerm Miss won 3 titles......................0 losing seasons""""" """"""""""""""""". No losing season since 1992, late '80s was the prior losing season.
Central Florida won 1 title........................a few losing seasons """" """"".
Louisville won sevral Conf USA titles before winning 1 Big East title..........................a few losing seasons"" """
UAB has won 0 titles( kind of new to D-IA)..................... a couple of losingseasons """ """
Memphis won 0 titles...............................a couple of losing seasons """"""""""""" """""""
Tulane won 1 title......................several losing season""" """"""""""
Tulsa won 3 titles.....................a few losing season""" """""""""""
SMU won 0 titles, but was a SWC powerhouse won several SWC in the early '80s.....................Lots of losing seasons, only 1 winning season since its resurrection of program in 1989. Death Penalty hurt the program.
UTEP won 1 title (WAC in 2000) and came close in 2005 and 2004 for Confer title.

Parity within the Conference USA??? Yes, sort of. Despite lack of balance on Confernce winners, most of the schools migrated from other conferences...........however in a 10 year span all members have beaten each other at least 2 times or more. Unlike some opponenets in the Big 10 or SEC who regularly play each other and cant win. Like 2 wins a decade against a annual opponent is straight silly.
So yes, parity is within this conference. Also they beat BCS opponents. No real cupcakes here in this conference.

MAC: last 15 years,********Big 10 teams love to play the MAC teams********

Shared or won conference titles.

Eastern Michigan 0 titles won ( 1 title in the last 50 seasons).................all losing seasons in the last 15 seasons. only 2 winning seasons in the lasty 20 (1995 and 1989), actually 5 winning season in the last 25 seasons. Has no notable victory over a BCS team in the last 20
Kent State 0 title won (1 in its entire history)..........................a bunch of losing seasons """"" """""""(2 winning seasons in the last 20 seasons)
Central Michigan won 3 titles .....................several losings seasons""" """""""""""""""
Western Michigan won 2 titles ....................several losing seasons""" """"""""""
Akron won 1 title..................sevaral losing seasons"""" """""
Buffalo won 1 title........................several losing seasons"""" """" only 2 winning seasons since the mid 90s. 2008 and 1996 prior(1996 D-IAA)
Northern Illinois won 1 title ...........................many losing season """ """""". Only a few winning seasons since the '80s. won a few MAC titles in the '80s
Bowling Green won 1 title......................many losing seaosns """ """"". Did win several MAC titles in th e'80s.
Miami(OH) won 3 titiles......................only had 3 losing seasons""" """""
Toledo won 6 titles..............................only 3 losing seasons""" """""
Ohio won 1 title (2006, 1968 prior)..........................had many losing seasons"""" """""""""""Even frank Solich is struggling up there. only 3 winning seasons.
Temple(Failed Big East Experiment) won 0 title (only 1 in existence 1967)..........................all losing seasons""""" """"""""" no winning season since 1990, 1984 prior to that.
Ball State won 2 ..........................many losing seasons""" """""""""only about 5 winning seasons.
These were the last 15 years. MAC is very similar to the Big 10. Pretty top heavy in terms of successful programs
Parity withing the MAC???? Not really, very Big 10 like. Conference titles isn't spread out during the last 30 seasons. Only differnce is every member has beaten each other at least 2 times in the last 15 years. Unlkie the ridiculous dominatinon of Florida over Vandy/Kentucky or Mich over Indiana/Minnesota , Ohio State over Indiana, ect.
Big 10 teams love to play the MAC. I Wonder why??

MWC is very even across the board in the last 12-20 seasons.

Last 15 seasons won or shared titles.

Air Force won 2 title.....................had a few losing seasons during that span. Only 4 losings seasons since the early '90s
BYU has won 7 titles (some were WAC).....................had only 3 losing seasons """"""""""" """"""""""""""""2002 losing season 1st since 1972
Colorado State won .................................had a few losing seasons""" """"
TCU won 6 (some SWC, WAC, Confe USA)..............................had 3 losing seasons""" """""""""""'
Utah won 5 titles ............................had a few losing seasons(only 3)""""""""""""" """"""""""""""
San Diego STate won 0 title (havent won a title since the '80s came close a few times in the '90s..........................many losing seasons, only 2 winnig seasons (mid '90s)
Wyoming won .....................
UNLV won ..........................
New Mexico won ......................
Parity within the MWC??? Yes, across the board in the 15 seasons, but each member has beaten each other at least 2 times in the past 15 seasons. The MOST SUCCESSFULL NON BCS conference over BCS teams in the past 20 seasons or so.

A whole page would be required by me to list the teams and victories.
Drink on that, pal.!!

No parity among mid majors? Lets see.

Last 15 years in the Sun Belt COnference, only been around since 2000.

All 7 teams have won or shared SBC conference title. Minus new member Western kentucky (D-IAA prior) 3 years ago. Minus Florida International, new program (less than 10 years), yet to have a winning season.

Louisiana Lafayette, yet they have beaten Kansas State and Texas A&M, and others in the past. But you know what?
They won a few Big West titles within the past 15 years.

Past SBC conference winners or shared

North Texas won 4 SBC titles..................a few losing seasons during that time span.
La Lafayette 1 title won(won some Big West titles in the '90s)....................a few losing season""" """"
Florida International won 0 title...............All losing seasons "" """"
Florida Atlantic won 1 title...................a few losing season"""" '''""""
Arkansas State won 1 title...............A few losing seasons"""" """"
Troy won 2 titles ........A few losing seasons""" """"
Western Kentucky 0 titles...............2 losing seasons in its existence of D-IA, D-IAA powerhouse before that.
La Monroe won 1 titile .............................A few losing seasons """ """".
Middle tenn State won 2 titles....................A couple of losing seasons """" """"""""'.

They have all beaten each other at least 2 times in the past 15 years. Many of these guys have upset BCS teams, been ranked at one time, and won some bowl games.

Parity amongst the SBC??? For sure.

Conf USA in the last 15 years

All COnf USA teams have won a confernce title or 2 in the last 15 years.

Rice Won 1 title................" "" """" Afew losing seasons during that span. Winninng seasons and a couple bowl games.
Houston won 3 titles( 1 SWC included).................................A couple of losing seasons"""" """""".
East Carolina won 1 title ..................a few losing seasons """ """".
Marshall won 0 titles, but a few titles in the MAC during the late '90s and early 2000s. ..................... 4 straight losing season.

No parity among mid majors? Lets see.

Last 15 years in the Sun Belt COnference, only been around since 2000.

All 7 teams have won or shared SBC conference title. Minus new member Western kentucky (D-IAA prior) 3 years ago. Minus Florida International, new program (less than 10 years), yet to have a winning season.

Louisiana Lafayette, yet they have beaten Kansas State and Texas A&M, and others in the past. But you know what?
They won a few Big West titles within the past 15 years.

Past SBC conference winners or shared

North Texas won 4 SBC titles..................a few losing seasons during that time span.
La Lafayette 1 title won(won some Big West titles in the '90s)....................a few losing season""" """"
Florida International won 0 title...............All losing seasons "" """"
Florida Atlantic won 1 title...................a few losing season"""" '''""""
Arkansas State won 1 title...............A few losing seasons"""" """"
Troy won 2 titles ........A few losing seasons""" """"
Western Kentucky 0 titles...............2 losing seasons in its existence of D-IA, D-IAA powerhouse before that.
La Monroe won 1 titile .............................A few losing seasons """ """".
Middle tenn State won 2 titles....................A couple of losing seasons """" """"""""'.

They have all beaten each other at least 2 times in the past 15 years. Many of these guys have upset BCS teams, been ranked at one time, and won some bowl games.

Parity amongst the SBC??? For sure.

Conf USA in the last 15 years

All COnf USA teams have won a confernce title or 2 in the last 15 years.

Rice Won 1 title................" "" """" Afew losing seasons during that span. Winninng seasons and a couple bowl games.
Houston won 3 titles( 1 SWC included).................................A couple of losing seasons"""" """""".
East Carolina won 1 title ..................a few losing seasons """ """".
Marshall won 0 titles, but a few titles in the MAC during the late '90s and early 2000s. ..................... 4 straight losing season.

Bob r " there's parity among the major schools and within their conferences, but certainly not the smaller schools...that adage that any team can be beat on any given saturday is true only when applied to the Big Time programs...look at the stats...since the 1960s, the national champions have come from a pool of less than 20 schools...and all except the fluke year of 1984 came from the Big Conferences...championships are what counts...don't give a hoot if a small school beats a Big Time program during the regular season...that's just a fluke." 1960s-1980s, were different times. Big time programs had big time scholarship advantages, lesser programs had less. Since the 90s , the schollies have been curtailed. 85 for D-IAA. 1984, yea, kinda flukish. All the Top teams were falling left and right, while BYU moved up. Ranked Pitt ended up having a down season aftyer BYU beat tm, similar to Michiganm last season. Baylor(who was actually good back then) had a down season after BYU beat, so on and so forth. Hell, #1 South Carolina lost to a sorry Navy team in the last week of the seaosn. Every program had 1 loss or more other than BYU. Florida was on probation, Oklahoma and Washington refused to play in the Holiday Bowl, wanted a higher paying Bowl. BYU, WAC was tied to the Holiday bowl and could not get out of it to play in the Orange Bowl. Michigan 6-5 were the only ones willing to play BYU. Michigan had QB issues with injuries, including Jim Harbaugh, explains the bad season. 1984 has nothing to with right now.

Now the good part. parity amongst BCS conference?? Ok , Pac 10, I'll give you that. because every team in that conference has played in a bowl game, won or shared a Conference title the
last 15 years shared or won Pac 10 titles.
Last 15 years:
USC more than 10 titles.......2 losing seasons in that time span.
Stanford 2 titles................hand full of losing season "" "".
Oregon 3 titles...................4 losing seasons "" """
UCLA 3 titles...................more than 4 losing season"""" """""
Oregon State 1 title...........More than 6 losing seasons"""" """"" but has 4 winnings seasons in conference since 2000.
Arizona won 2 titles...........................hand ful of losing seasons""'' """"
Washington State won 2 titles ................Hand full of losing season """" """
Washington won 3 titles ..................hand full of losing seasons """" """""
Cal won 2 titles ..........................more than 5 losing seasons"""" """""
Arizona State won 2 titles........more than 4 losng seasons """ """"
Arizona and Arizona State are former WAC teams!!!!
Every member has beaten each other 2 or more times the past 15 years.
Parity in the PAC 10??? Yes, Parity right there in the last 15 years.

Big 10.... last 15 years.
shared or won conference titles last 15 seasons.

Michigan won more than 5 titles....1 losing season in the that time span. In fact 1st losing since 1967.
Michigan lost to Minnesota only 2 times in the past 30 years, Lost to Indiana ONCE since the 1960s (1987 and late 60s before that). IU should have won last weekend, like Norte Dame, they were robbed. That's a different story. Wolverines feeding off of bottom dung.

Ohio State won more than 7 titles .................0 losing seasons "" """", last losing season 1988, 1966 before. Minnesota only beaten Ohio State 2 times in the past 30 years. Indiana beat the Buckeys only 2 times in the past 30 years. Northwestern only beaten the Buckeyes 2 times in the past 30 years. Same thing with buckeyes, munhing the conference cupcakes for years.

Penn State won 2 titles.................4 losing seasons"""" """". Indiana NEVER beat the Nittany Lions.
Northwestern has won 3 titles...............a few losing seasons""" """"""
Illinois won 2 titles......................many losing season"""" """"
Iowa won 2 titles........................" a few losing season""" """"Iowa sucked from the 50s-70s. Cupcakes for everyone.
Michigan State won 0 titles (has won titles since the 80s)...................lots of losing seasons""" """""
Wisconsin has won 3 titles ........................A few losing seasons""" """""
Indiana 0 title won (only won 2 title 1967 and 1934)....................many, many losing seasons. only 5 wins against Ohio State in its history. No winning conference record since the 80s and early 90s.
Minnesota 0 titles (not since 1960 and many more before that).................quite a few losing season""" """"
Purdue won only 1 (1967 was the one prior to 2000)...............quite a few losing seasons"""" """".
Parity within the Big 10????? I call BS!!! Lots of bottom dung over a 20-30 year span for Michigan, Ohio State to feed on. Northwestern was trash before the mid 90s. IU, Purdue, and Minny have spurts here and there, but nothing special since the JFK administration. Too many opponents with little success against another. Somewhat top heavy. FAIL!!!!!!

SEC the last 15 years.........let's take a look.

Won/shared titles last 15 seasons:

Florida won 7 titles.............0 losing season in that time span(1979 was the last 1 with a couple more in the '70s) Last lost to Kentucky in 1986, 3 times in the last 30 season. Last lost to Vanderbilt in 1987, 3 times in the last 30 seasons. Lost to South Carolina 2 times in the last 20 season. Bottom feed for Florida.

Tennessee won 3 titles.................2 losing seasons in 20 seasons. Last lost to Kentucky in 1984, 3 times in the last 30 seasons. Lost to Vandy 2 times in the last 25 seasons. Lost to South Carolina 2 times in the last 20eason. Lost to Ole Miss 2 time in the last 30 seasons. Hardly lost to Miss St and Arkansas inthe last 25 seasons. More bottom feed for the Vols.

Georgia won 2 titles ..............4 losing seasons in """" """"
Ole Miss won 0 titles..................many losing seasons"" """ has not won an SEC title since the 70s.
Miss State won 1 title..............many losing season""" """"
Arkansas won 3 titles.............quite a few losing season""" """
South Carolina won 0 titles............quite a few losing season""" """"
Alabama won more than 5...............a few losing seasons"""" """ Lost to Ole Miss only 3 times in the last 25 years.
LSU won more than 4 titles.............a few losing seasons""" """
Auburn won more than 3 titles..............." a couple of losing seasons"""" """
Kentucky won 0 title......................quite a few losing seasons""" """". Last won an SEC title in 76 and 77. Hasnt had a winning conference record since the 80s and 70s.
Vanderbilt won 0 titles..............many losing seasons""" """" in fact last yr winning season, 1st since 1982. Only 3 winning seasons in the last 35 years. Only 4 bowl games in its history history, hasnt had a winning conference record since 1982 and the 50s before.
Parity within the SEC???? I call BS!!!! Kentucky, South Carolina, Ole Miss, Miss State, Vandy have all been pathetic, mediorce, with a few spurts of success. lots of cupcakes for the SEC top dawgs!! Most serieses are dominated or too long a time span of victories over another. Very top heavy. FAIL!!!!!!!!!!

Big XII the last 15 years: won or shared titles

Kansas State won 3 Titles..................a few losing seasons in that time span. Went 30 plus yrs w/o beating Nebraska, but since the late 90s, KSU has beaten Nebraska 5 times.
Kansas 1 title................a few losing seasons""" """.Only beat Nebraska 2 times in the last 40 years, but these wins have been recent and blowout wins
Missouri won 2 title..............a few losing seaosns""" """Only 4 wins against Nebraska in the last 30 seasons, but these wins have been recent and blow out wins.
Iowa State won 0 titles(came close in 2004 and 2005)...............a few losing seasons. Beat Nebraska 3 times in the last 15 seasons.
Colorado won 4 titles.................many losing seasons""""" """
Nebraska won more than 5 titles.................2 losing seasons""" """
Oklahoma won more than 5 titles.............3 losing seasons""" """"
Texas won more than 5 titles....................2 losing season since early 90s.
Texas Tech won 2 (1 shared SWC in 1994).............2 losing season since the early 90s
Baylor won 0 (shared SWC in 1994)titles............all losing season""" """"" has had a winning seaosn since 1994 and many more in the early 90s. Program is coming around though.
Oklahoma State won 0 titles...................a few losing seaosn""" """" Program is coming on though.
Texas A&M won 2 titles..............a few losing season""" """"
Parity within the Big XII??? YES. All across the board in the last 15 seasons, even Iowa State has been in contention. Minus Baylor. hardly any cupcakes in this conference. Pretty even. Most members have beaten each other 2 or more times the past 15 years.
ACC in the last 15 years

Won or shared conference titles:

Florida State won 11 titles..................0 losing seasons in that time span. Program is in a down turn though, may get one soon. 1976 was the last losing season, 1974-75 before that. Lost to Wake Forest 3 straight times. FSU has lost to all ACC members at least twice in the last 15 season except DUKE.
Wake Forest won 1 title(last 1 before that 1970)...................a few losing seasons.
Duke won 0 titles(last won in the late 80s and ealy 70s before that...............lots of losing seasons""" """"1994 was the last winning season.
NC State won 0 title, buwon several in the '70s...............a few losing seasons""" """
North Caroilina won 2 titles..................a few losing seasons""" """
Miami(FL) won more than 4 titles................2 losing seasons""" """""
Clemson won 0 titles, but lots of them in the '80..............3 losing seasons.""" """
Georgia Tech won 1 title (1998 and 1990 before that)...........3 losing seasons""" """"
Virginia won 1 title (1995 and 1989 before that)..................a few losing seasons"" """
Virginia Tech won more than 3...................0 losing seasons""" """" 1992 last losing season, late 80s before that.
Maryland won 1 title, but won a few more in the '80s.......................a few losing seasons""" """"
Boston College won 2 plus 1 in the Big east........................2 losing seasons.
Parity within the ACC??? Better believe it, minus Duke, pretty even across the board the last 15 seasons. Matter of time before Duke turns it around. many D-Iaa teams and BCS schools have pounded Duke, however. Every member has beaten each other 2 or nmore time sin the last 20 years.

Big East in the last 15 seasons

Won /shared conference titles Pretty young league for the most part..

Rutgers won 0 titles(Independent before that).............many losing seasons in that time span, but has had 4 straight winning seasons and bowl wins.
West Virginia won 5 titles.............2 losing seasons""" """.
Pittsburgh won 1 title(long time Independent before that...................a few losings seasons"" ""
South Florida won 0 titles, but have came close a few times.................2 losing season""" """. D-IAA less than 10 years ago.
UConn won 1 title...................a few losing seasons""" """". D-IAA less than 10 years ago.
Syracuse won 5 titles..............a hand ful of losing seasons"" """
Louisville (former Conf USA) won 1 title and a few in CONF USA...............a few losing seasons """ """
Cincinnatti won 1 title and another in Conf USA........................a few losing seasons""" """
Parity within the Big East???? Sure, pretty even across the board. All memebres have beaten each other at least 2 times in the last 15 years.

SEC and Big 10 are the top heavy conference, you being a Michigan Alum/fan explains your East Coast Biased, egotistical self.

Indepedent last 15 years

Norte Dame been pretty successful at times a dn a few losing seasons. Same story for Navy. Navy has only beaten Norte Dame 1 time in the last 37 yrs, but many have been close losses. May get another soon.
Western Kentucky has only been D-IA for 2 season, no success so far.
Army has struggle since the '90s, no winning seaon since 1996. Good teams in the '80s. Played Norte Dame to close game the last 2 meeting.

I don't want to go over D-IAA victories over BCS schools or D-IA for tha matter. there have been TOO many over the last 15 seasons. MWC, MAC, Conf USA, an SunBelt vbictories over BCS school over the last 15 seasons would require a whole new page, and frankly I am too tire to type, but then happy to list them for you if you request and I have the time.

How about Montana effin State over Colorado a few years ago? Appy State over Michigan (your favorite)? Delaware over Navy several times over Navy? so on so forth.

D-II teams against D-IA games are very rare. But how aboiut Cal State Davis (D-II at the time) over Stanford in 2005? North Alabama over La Lafayette in 1997? That same LA Lafayette team(led by Jake Delhomme and Brandon Stokely) that upset ranked Texas A&M the season before. UC Davis over Pacifi in th eearly 90s? Texas A&I (Now Kingsville) over UTEP in the '80? Several D-II teams have beaten D-IA opponents in the last 30 years. And yeas, thats after the division classifications.

Don't get butt hurt, pal. Times have changed. And the gap is getting closer than you would like to think.

Even between your mighty Michigan and Boise State. If they played today, my money's on Boise State.
I' m gonna drink some more after work.....you have a great weekend. Been a pleasure.

Steve - i am not at all resentful toward small programs...there's nothing to resent...I just dislike the attention those programs receive because they play patsies all year...they may, just may play one big game a year...how hard is it to play your best and catch a great team on low b/c they're playing a lowly program? great programs have tradition, great coaching, incredible players and loyal and wise fans. loyalty can only go so far with a crap program like boise or utah or other small time programs.

hmmm, what would the nation rather see, michigan playing anyone or boise/utah/any other small school...pretty easy answer to that...

small time programs breed small time minds.

okay since Bob r. admits he went to Michigan, lets look at their awesome record against
Non-BCS schools recently.

2007:
34-32 LOSS to Appalachian State (A division 1-AA program) in a home game? Impressive.
32-22 win versus Eastern Michigan (not exactly a blowout)

2008:
28-23 LOSS to Utah (Who also whipped Alabama in the Sugar Bowl)
16-6 win versus Miami of Ohio (another snoozer).
13-10 LOSS to Toledo in another home game? Even more Impressive.

I understand bob r's anger and resentment towards the smaller Non-BCS schools now.
Look what they've done to his precious Michigan Wolverine's football program.

oh and let's talk about money, according to the Street & Smith's SportsBusiness Journal, the top revenue producing schools are as follows:

1. University of Texas $72.95 million
2. University of Georgia $67.05 million
3. University of Florida $66.1 million
4. Ohio State University $65.16 million
5. Notre Dame University $59.77 million
6. Auburn University $59.67 millions
7. University of Michigan $57.46 million
8. Penn State University $53.76 million
9. University of Alabama $57.37 million
10. Louisiana State University $52.68 million

hmmm, don't see Boise, Utah or Texas Tech....must be a conspiracy against the mid majors...better have Congress investigate it.

i won't even get into the Heisman winners...can't recall one from Boise nor Utah nor Texas Tech...so yes, these schools deserve recognition because they produce lots of money and Heisman trophy winners...oh wait, these schools don't do that...hence, their oblivion and need for foolish fans like yourselves having to defend your alleged program.

poor poor people so delusional...you get so upset about ripping your school...i'm starting to understand the Napoleon complex very vividly..my views are rather simple....mid majors are just that...mid majors...they don't deserve to be on the big stage with the big boys...the Big Time programs have more money, tradition, prestige...need i go on. seriously, nationwide, who would want to see boise or Utah play their conference game versus an SEC (Florida v. LSU) matchup or Big Ten match up (Michign v. Ohio State)...not too many. Need i pull out the Neilsens to prove this point? don't need to, it's a rhetorical question.

I have serious issues with a mediocre team that goes undefeated in conference play and plays/beats patsies during non-conference play and b*tch and moan that they don't get to play in the national championship (eg Utah, hence my dislike of Utah). Again, these schools couldn't hold the jocks of players in the Big Ten, SEC, Big 12, etc. ...

jeffree hope you're drinking the hard stuff because you're whacked. there's parity among the major schools and within their conferences, but certainly not the smaller schools...that adage that any team can be beat on any given saturday is true only when applied to the Big Time programs...look at the stats...since the 1960s, the national champions have come from a pool of less than 20 schools...and all except the fluke year of 1984 came from the Big Conferences...championships are what counts...don't give a hoot if a small school beats a Big Time program during the regular season...that's just a fluke.

notre dame is in its own category...12 national titles, the most of any program puts it in its own category. Army once was a powerhouse in the 30s-40s but haven't done squat. my squabble is with these new mid majors, eg Boise and Utah. i have no problems with programs that have some sort of tradition.

fyi - i went to michigan for undergrad and northwestern for grad school, although i have nothing against the wildcats, i'm a wolverine. also, far from 40, jeffree, actually 10 years younger. nice try though, better stop drinking the zimas and start drinking the real stuff.

I think that bob r, sleeps with a picture of roy kramer by his bedside. It's the only conclusion I can come up with. Nothing makes any sense. Imagine that just like the BCS doesn't make sense. I see a pattern here

Shall I continue? And those are just WAC teams against he *Elite Conference* members I've listed.

I've been drinking, don't let me get started on the MWC, MAC, Conference USA, and others against the *elitists* now. HAHAHA!

Have a nice day, pal!! Mike Leach says Hi via twitter.

Hey, Bobby r, who are you a fan of anyways? I bet Texas Tech has a winning record against them, lol.

Ppl, this is a strange man with a STRANGE obsession with mid majors or non traditional power .schools. He's even trolled the Utah/Louisville blog. Poor fella!!!

You are a fool if you don't think there is no parity in NCAA football. Crawl out from the cave you've been stuck under since the 90s, I assume? What , you think the 4 Horsemen still reside in South Bend, IN? How about the Tom Osbourne led 'Huskers? Soryy, buddy, it may grieve you, but times have changed. The gap is a lot closer than you would like to think.

Still talking about the "have nots" never ever will catch up? I picture Bobby being over 40 yrs, form the South, maybe a SEC team fan stuck in mediocrity (South Carolina, Kentucky or whoever), while everyone else (mid major powers, Texas Tech, Oklahoma State, Missouri, Oregon, Virginia Tech, and other non "traditions") pass them up , feels left behind or maybe a racist in the past? Someone that doesn't like CHANGE,? you know, one of those guys that freaked out when all of a sudden in the new century, there has been an abundance of African America QBs in the NFL "oh, they could/should never play that position in a higher level of competition". lol
OK, bubba, we gotcha!! You continue to be a babblin buffoon.

WHy don't you also list the # of MNC that DUKE, Vanderbilt, USF, Baylor, West Virginia, Texas Tech ( I know, I'm sorry I have to include my own team there), Washington State, Louisville, UCONN, Iowa State, Iowa, Kansas State, and a whole bunch more BCS/BCS conference schools have. Answer: 0.
Albeit, some of them are new to D-IA as well, only difference is own you BCS blind eyes, they are superior based on BCS affiliation.

At least you were opened up enough to include Army(so called non BCS program) on the list, but you get the point.

Some interesting facts: WAC

Alabama lost to La Tech the last 2 times since 1997. (although La Tech was Independent at the time)
Alabama is 2-1 vs Hawaii this decade, one of those victories was a VERY close game.
Bama lost to UCF, Northern Illinois this decade.

From the MWC : Bottom feeder scrub Wyoming beat Ole Miss twice, UCLA, Virginia, and Tennessee the past 6 years. But let's not talk about the MWC. everyone knows that they are good. and I'm just starting off with the bottom MWC. If I work my way up to the top of the MWC(TCU, BYU, UTAh, Colorado State, Air Force). lol That would really end the argument.

Arizona is 0-2 against Fresno State.
Cal is 0-2 against Fresno State
Cincy is 1-1 against Hawaii including a come from behind win last season.
Colorado is 1-1 this decade against Fresno state, Colorado won a sqeaker in 1998.
UConn lost to UTAH frickin STate (poor WAC program) a few years ago.
Duke has no history against the WAC or MWC teams....good thing, I would have killed you there. lol
San Diego State (back then a WAC team) beat Florida State twice and is 2-0 against the Seminoles. Well, everyone beat the Seminoles back then.
Florida State, Miami, and Virginia Tech were considered mid majors in those times and nobody thought they would ever be a power, well, look what happen since. DOHHH!!!!

Georgia Tech is 0-2 against Fresno State this decade and lifetime....huh?!?!!?
Illinois is 1-1 this decade against San Jose State this decade.....WHAT??!?! Also lost to Hawaii a decade ago.
Indiana lost to Utah twice this decade...wait they are in the MWC...nevermind.

Kansas State was 1-1 against Utah Frickin State in the 90s. Oh, but play Kansas state against them now you say.............Okay 0-2 this decade against Fresno State, lost to Marshall(Conference USA) this decade...lost a thriller a few weeks ago to Louisiana Lafayette!!!! Somewhere in the middle of all this KSU has won a BXII title and played a few other BXII title games the past decade.

Can't find anything on Maryland (won a few MNC in the good ole days) but they did lose to Middle tennessee state...2 YEARS in a row!!!! Like Oregon lost to Boise State 2 YEARS in a ROW!!!!!!! I guess they were "Lucky" like Middle Tenn State.

Michigan State 0-1 against La Tech this decade.
Michigan State 1-1 against Hawaii this decade.

Meeeneesotta 0-1 Hawaii, lost in the late 90s.
Minnesota 1-1 against San Diego State in the 90s. Early 90s, You know before the scholarship limitations took place.

Mississippi State lost the last 2 meetings against La Tech 2008 and 1996.
NC State owns a beautiful 0-2 record against Wyoming.
Northwestern is 1-1 against Nevada and 1-1 against Hawaii this decade.

Notre Dame Crushed Nevada this season, crushed Hawaii last season in a bowl game. The Irish played Hawaii twice in the 90s and came out shaking, squeezing out both game in the last seconds.

Oklahoma? Well, Boise State.
Oklahoma lost to both Tulsa, TCU, and San Diego State in the late 90s. When they were ALL WAC teams. NNNOOO, say it aint so.
TCU beat them again a few years later, this time they were a MWC team.

Oklahoma State is 1-1 against La Tech this decade. ....huh, really?

Oregon lost the last 3 meeting to Hawaii in the 90s.
Oregon 0-2 against Boise State.....your favorite.

Oregon State is 2-2 this decade against Boise State.
Oregon State is 3-5 against Fresno State since the 90s, 1-2 this decade.

Pittsburgh 0-1 against Hawaii. 1-3 their last 3 meeting to MWC teams (BYU, TCU and Utah). 0-2 against Air force kicks and giggles even though that was back in the 70s.

Purdue is 0-1 against Hawaii this decade.
Rutgers is 0-1 against Fresno State this decade.

USF is 1-3 lifetime against the MWC (San Diego State, TCu, Utah) all this decade
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Southern Cal is very successful against current WAC teams, only 1 loss...to Fresno State in the 90s. but lost a few times to MWC teams recently.

Stanford lost to San Jose State 4 times the past 10 years.

Syracuse doesn't have much of a history with the WAC, but played a MWC team as recent as 2006 (6 point win over Wyoming)...before that 2002.........blown out by BYU.

UCLA lost the last 2 meeting to Fresno State...this decade.

Too bad Vanderbilt doesn't play WAC teams...would have really killed you there. However, they did play TCU 4 times (1995,1997,1998,2003) ....1-3 against against TCU....lone victory in 1997.

Virginia 0-1 against Fresno State this decade.

Wake forest has not played a WAC team , but played MWC teams...........lost to Air Force and TCU the past 10 years. 0-2 record.

Washington 1-1 against Fresno State this decade, 1-2 lifetime against Hawaii(0-1 this decade), and 0-1 against lovely Nevada...not UNLV , but Nevada this decade.

Washington State AKA Wazzu!!!! 0-2 this decade against powerhouse Hawaii ....2-3 lifetime for those who are counting..........lost back to back games against Idaho...not Boise State....but Idaho in the late 90s. before staring a winning streak against them.

Wisconsin has been shizniting bricks against Fresno State only lost to them once, but all 4 meetings the past 10 years have been pretty, pretty close.

Check your facts, Bubba , before you blurt out crap.

Keep trolling fella, we know you love the attention. We just don't feel like playing today. Go home and take your ball with you. We'll let you know when it's time to play. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

Good Bye, strange obsession, babblin buffoon.

Oh yea, Mike Leach says Hi. He'll send ya a twitter soon. Wreck 'em!!

Wow bob r were do you get all of your insight and vast knowledge. I realize there is nothing I can say or do to change your mind. Some people in this world are so far beyond narrow mindedness. I'm not here to change your mind either. That would be like teaching a new born to piss in the toilet. I would like to know were your hatred for any team beyond the blessed BCS comes from. What team are you rooting for? Where did you graduate from? Hey, myself along with all the BSU fans would love to see our team move out of this conference. I know when they entered Div I 10 yrs ago, they knew they were starting near the bottom. I believe they have shown they are ready to move up. So lets get them out of this crap conference and move them on up. Let see how they do in a bigger and better conference. That way we can get allotted the same amount of scholarships that the majors do. It makes a difference when you can go out and buy a football team with full rides vs. having 98% of its student athletes paying for there own way. I say take all the scholarships away. We know that will never happen. When know that the completely flawed BCS system is not going anyway anytime soon. So when the BCS conferences open up there stadiums to the inferior schools, well never know. And by the way, BSU has had a little bit of success in having players go pro. 12 players in the last 6 years. One being Ryan Claddy, who went first round, But don't tell me, they all got lucky. And same with our coach, he got lucky when he won the The Paul 'Bear' Bryant Award. Isn't that award meant for a real coach. I am a fan of BSU. Both my wife and I earned our degrees from this school. We are both very proud of our school and its success. I don't know why you have a hatred for any non BCS school. I don't know why you feel the need to trash it and its teams and fans. But it is your right.

oh...and the flip side to this discussion is that if Boise was in a real conference, eg, Big Ten, they'd finish no better than 10th or 11th (even bad teams get lucky once a year...hence boise beating oklahoma)...if they were in the SEC, boise probably wouldn't win a conference game...they don't have the athletes, coaching or program to compete with the Big Boys consistently. Once a year...maybe, twice, probabaly not...three times against a major...absolutely no way...IMPOSSIBLE.

let me clarify...any last place or close to last place team in any of the majors would win, rather easily, the crap conference that Boise is in. I don't put any credence in your coaches argument because, once again, it goes to schedule. That, in and of itself, is a huge argument. Again you downplay it because Boise doesn't play anyone. A highly ranked high school team can go into boise's conference and go undefeated...it doesn't take much. Therefore, when the coaches vote, of course they'll have to move up a team, like boise, that may have 1 or no lossses, but played patsies. who you play makes the team who they are...crap schedule like boise = crap team like boise. just face it, boise never has been nor will be a major player in college football.

can't wait til they lose this season and then your school will go back into oblivion where it belongs.

better off rooting for a real team...hmmmm out west you've got USC, Cal was good until last week...you're still in school, you'll learn the follies of your ways.

Face it, Boise is a mid major on a decent streak and will always be a mid major.

Thank you bob r for proving my point, YOUR words are "Put a Big Ten, Pac 10, Big 12 or an SEC school in that conference and they, too, would be guaranteed 10-11 win seasons and would produce the same result that this mediocre program has produced." I will take that is we are equal. And thank you for avoiding the fact that the Coaches all seem to think Boise state is a #5 team. They (coaches) have no @#$% clue on what they are doing. Nor did I ever say that there were scared to play, I said they are rejecting to play. Whether they are scared or not I have no clue. But look at USC, they played San Jose State and killed them. They are in this mediocre confrence, but they refuse to play Boise state. WHY !!! Why play a team in a @#$% conference , that hasn't won more then 10 games in what 15yrs, Your right its about money, Boise state open up against Virginia Tech next season, And will Pay $1.5 million for us to come play. So when you can offer up something better then a weak schedule as the reason and its a controlled reason, a reason controlled by BCS confrences, then lets talk. The only way any of us college football fans and fans of our teams are going to see who is the best, Then change the schedules, get rid of this WEAK SCHEDULE bull@#$% cuz its all you got to use. Any team can be beat,

Fah Fah...you're absolutely right, you're IQ has fallen...well below zero. Your whole argument ignores the fact that Boise is a crap school playing in a mediocre conference. Most of their games are against inferior opponents, hence, their virtually certainty of having 7-8 wins. Add in the patsies they play and all of a sudden, Boise has 10-11 wins.. Put a Big Ten, Pac 10, Big 12 or an SEC school in that conference and they, too, would be guaranteed 10-11 win seasons and would produce the same result that this mediocre program has produced. As far as the BCS teams being scared of Boise, you're so full of it...it's all about money so in determining a non-coference schedule, the Big Time schools will naturally play whatever match up garners more money. Besides, strength of schedule has significant weighting in the BCS determination so the days of the Big Time schools scheduling patsies like Boise does, are over.

I hardly think that any Big Time school would be afraid of a crap school that plays on a crap field with their crap fans.

Must be something in the spuds you're eating, Fah Fah.

Wow after reading all of these postings I feel like I have lost IQ points. You have to be kidding me with all of this crap about how teams are inferior because of the conference or lack of history and tradition. Give me a break. Boise state has been in Division I football for 10yrs, count them on all of your fingers. The fact that since entering Division I football in 1999 (hence the 10 yrs), they have been ranked in every year since 2002. That right there should be and embarrassment to all the REAL schools and their TRADITIONS. That some crap team from spud land with their gay field can keep on being ranked. What really gets me is when you look at the coaches polls and they rank boise state at #5 I think that says something. If i were a coach from a BCS confrence and I ranked them at #5 and i had to play them. You better believe that I would prep my team to be playing a #5 ranked team. For all those that believe that Boise state is inferior and is only were they are because of their weak schedule, Please do us a favor and call The guys that plan the schedule and ask them how many GODLY BCS Conference teams reject offers to play against Boise State, either home or away. When you find out how many chicken @#$% teams are out there, then please post back and give us a count. So until then, this crap teams and its crap fans with its crap traditions well continue to win on its gay field and at the end of each year, that same crap team will continue to take 15 million dollars away for the BCS.

Jeffree you're an idiot for several reasons: first, you're a texas tech fan and lemme guess you love your moronic coach; second, i cut my list randomly to illustrate moron that almost all the national championships have gone to major schools and major programs...you're a fool if you believe that there's parity in college football...the majors have, are and will continue to dominate and Boise, Utah and other paltry schools like that will never, ever win a national championship, unless they create one specifically for the mid-majors.

as far as superiority, i'm only stating the facts...no mid-major deserves or will win a national championship because they have inferior talent, programs, conferences and fans.

Hey Bob r, where's TCU's 2 NC, SMU 1 NC, BYU 1 NC, and Princetons handful of NC on that list you babbling idiot? Afraid to list the mid-majors/ lesser div programs?

BTW, Boise St became D-IA in the late 1990s and won a few D-IAA titles prior. I'm no fan of Boise St, either. Texas Tech fan actually, but I respect other good football programs.

Afraid the talent level is starting even out in the landscape of college football and the "have nots" are catching up?

GTFO here with your "superiority" complex.

Proof is in the pudding you foolish Boise State fans. Here the teams with the most national championships since 1900, conspicuously absent, your crap team Boise State...stats don't lie people.

Notre Dame 12
Alabama 11
USC 10
Michigan 7
Oklahoma 7
Minnesota 6
Pittsburgh 6
Miami 5
Nebraska 5
Ohio State 5
Army 4
Georgia Tech 4
Illinois 4
Tennessee 4
Texas 4
California 3
Florida 3
LSU 3
Michigan St 3
FSU 2
Georgia 2
Maryland 2
Penn State 2
Texas A&M 2

when will boise state fans realize their team is crap and their players are crap...who would want to play in Idaho and who would want to play in a mid-major conference...Amanda... i do know what it takes to play in a divistion I program, unlike you, I go to a real divistion I program in the Big Ten, one with tradition, history and real players...you know the ones that actually win something called the Heisman....hmmmm when was the last time a Boise State player won the Heisman...oh wait, never...oh when was the last time Boise won a national championship...oh wait, never. Why? Because their crap and their players are less than stellar athletes...how many pro players from Boise are there? I'm betting none to one or two. So please keep your blind faith to yourselves and start cheering on a real team, from a real program, from a real state...I realize you losers have nothing but potatoes and a gay looking field, but that's your sicknesses you have to deal with...my condolences to all you idiots that support a team that will never, ever receive national recognition.

Boise State would CRUSH Ohio State!! the only reasons the broncos have Tulsa, Bowling Green and the other weak nonconference teams on their schedule is b/c the strong BCS schools refuse to play Boise during the regular season!!

I AGREE 100% THOSE BIG TIME TEAMS DO NOT WANT TO SCHEDULE BOISE BECAUSE THEY DONT WANT A HOME AND HOME CUZ THEY ARE AFRAID OF GOING INTO THE BLUE AND BEING EMBARRASED LIKE SO CALLED BIG TIME OREGON DID. SO DEAL WITH IT YOU SO CALLED BIG TIME PROGRAM FANS YOUR ALL THREATEND BY WHAT THEY WOULD DO TO YOUR PROGRAM IN A GAME KEEP HIDING BEHIND THAT MONIKER THAT BOISE WOULDNT MATCH UP WITH THEM BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW THEY WOULD.

Boise State would CRUSH Ohio State!! the only reasons the broncos have Tulsa, Bowling Green and the other weak nonconference teams on their schedule is b/c the strong BCS schools refuse to play Boise during the regular season!!

I AGREE 100% THOSE BIG TIME TEAMS DO NOT WANT TO SCHEDULE BOISE BECAUSE THEY DONT WANT A HOME AND HOME CUZ THEY ARE AFRAID OF GOING INTO THE BLUE AND BEING EMBARRASED LIKE SO CALLED BIG TIME OREGON DID. SO DEAL WITH IT YOU SO CALLED BIG TIME PROGRAM FANS YOUR ALL THREATEND BY WHAT THEY WOULD DO TO YOUR PROGRAM IN A GAME KEEP HIDING BEHIND THAT MONIKER THAT BOISE WOULDNT MATCH UP WITH THEM BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW THEY WOULD.

BOISE STATE is twice the team cal florida state an oklahoma are.