Both Iverson and the Knicks deserve better

It’s painfully clear to everyone but the management of the New York Knicks that there’s only one question to which Allen Iverson(notes) remains “The Answer.”

That is: “What could be worse than spending 40 years in the NBA wilderness with Isiah Thomas, Larry Brown and Stephon Marbury(notes)?”

So let’s be clear: Iverson and the Knicks deserve better than what they’re going to get by tying their fates together.

No matter what you think about Iverson, few guys are actually more worthy of a championship. There’s no way to appreciate the depth of his effort unless you’ve seen him play in person. For a dozen seasons, every night was David vs. Goliath for him, and it was nothing short of miraculous that for most of those, Iverson could make you believe a good little man was every bit the equal of a bigger one. But that was then.

Iverson’s behavior on and off the court has always been a riddle, hence his nickname, “The Answer.” If you read between the lines of what every coach he’s played for said about him—no one cared more about the games, or less about practice—you’d understand why each of them waited so long before throwing up his hands and letting somebody else try to solve the problem.

Small wonder, then, that Iverson remains unwilling or unable to see what everyone else does: At age 34, his ego hasn’t crested the hill, but his talents almost certainly have.

The Knicks don’t have that excuse. Their fans have show admirable patience, especially since the team’s latest plan to rebuild involves throwing big money at next summer’s free-agent class—led by LeBron James(notes). In today’s NBA market, that’s a risky bet at best.

But acquiring Iverson would be like doubling down. He won’t be building a bridge to the future so much as burning it. The Nuggets, Pistons and Grizzlies all tried that route. No one in New York wants to see a return of the three-ring circus that played out at Madison Square Garden when Thomas, Brown and Marbury tried their hands at calling the shots. But those could seem like harmonious days once Iverson shows up.

He’s not about to lessen his demands for playing time, shots and most of the oxygen in the locker room the moment he shows up, no matter what he says beforehand. When George Karl gave up trying to fit Iverson into an up-tempo Nuggets team in Denver, he showed up in Detroit promising “to sacrifice what I have to sacrifice to get it done. I got to look in the mirror at myself and think of things that I can do to help us win a championship.”

But nothing changed and after a while, the Pistons were so grateful for any excuse to keep him off the bench—the official reason was a back injury—they effectively paid him to stay away. Then the experiment in Memphis—Iverson actually said God had chosen the place for him to play—lasted all of three games.

He asked out by requesting an indefinite leave of absence to handle some personal matters. No sooner was he gone than the Grizzlies decided to make it permanent.

The real shame in all this is that Iverson’s skills wore down before his pride did. Look at what he’s accomplished during his career—sixth-best scoring average in NBA history; fourth-most minutes played; 10 All-Star games; four scoring titles; and an MVP award—and the only thing missing is a ring.

Iverson might have one of those, too, if only he had been willing to contribute something instead of always demanding more than his share. There’s a reason all those contending clubs and every bottom-dweller but Memphis passed on him last summer. What makes New York an even worse choice is that there’s already too few minutes, shots and wins to go around.

The Knicks haven’t won a playoff game since 2001 and made only one appearance in the postseason since. But anybody who thinks irrelevant is as low as the franchise can sink either has a short memory or isn’t asking the right question.

That’s why when Charles Barkley was asked Thursday on ESPN what he thought about Iverson going to the Knicks, he didn’t hesitate to answer:

“I hate to see things end like this.”

Jim Litke is a national sports columnist for The Associated Press. Write to him at jlitke(at)ap.org

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    Curt Sat Nov 21, 2009 12:54 pm PST Report Abuse
    A.I. Is better than 25 of the 30 starting point guards in the league right now, but man he's got to bend a little on the "must start" thing so he can get back into the game. Whoever is starting A.I. they'll bench them eventually after you get there.
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    changename Sat Nov 21, 2009 07:53 am PST Report Abuse
    Diminished skills? The dude averaged 26 points and 7 assists when he was a starter two seasons ago. Even in detroit as a back up he was averaging 17 and 6. Sure, it's diminished from the 31 and 10 games he used to put up, but yall write about him like he's a scrub. He's got skills, his only problem is he's a ball hog. Memphis is a loser squad, and they were loosing with him on the bench, they shoulda started him. He's not over the hill. If we didn't have all the talent we needed in Dallas already, I would take him.
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    Domingo Sat Nov 21, 2009 06:20 am PST Report Abuse
    i love AI, let him play, hes the best remain in Jordan era..
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    Micheal J Fri Nov 20, 2009 07:36 pm PST Report Abuse
    some of these writers amaze me with their incompetence. Who are these people deciding that Iverson's skills have eroded. No more than Steve Nash. He was given the opportunity in Denve and what did they do win 52-53 games. He lead the team in scoring and assist 27ppg 7assist and that was less than 2 years ago. So now everyone is suppose to agree that his skills have deminished because the coach decided he was going to play less minutes. Whoeve wrote this story is a joke. Please. Iverson will end up with a contender before the year is out maybe even within the next two weeks. Then I want to hear want the copy cat talking heads have to say.
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    RC M Fri Nov 20, 2009 07:26 pm PST Report Abuse
    "iverson should be picked up by orlando, since nelson is out for 6 weeks..and iverson would be playing for a championship calliber team. its the best fit"

    -H3LL Y3S!!!
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    Perkins43 Fri Nov 20, 2009 06:24 pm PST Report Abuse
    Brent Barry is the Best Player EVER!!!!!
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    A Fri Nov 20, 2009 04:58 pm PST Report Abuse
    Show up to town and be crowned the king who is given all the minutes he wants. The coach will have a team of 4 positions on the court all game long. Of course Iverson will hold the 5th spot, playing all the minutes he wants

    TRY THE D-League......Allen - not in the NBA. Someone give me a pin so I could pop that inflated head of yours...
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    Christian Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:30 am PST Report Abuse
    Wow... i feel like The kincks was the last chance for him to be a starting player... o well... now he has no choice but to be a role player.... hopefully he can get on a contender and make a difference and show that he is still "The answer"... its a shame i must say.... I truly feel AI's problem is that he needs to be on a team whereas he is the main focus, this is why he thrived in philly for so long.... i just dont think that he is one of those players that can mentally handle being a role player.... that aside i would really love to see him in a heat's uniform playing with wade.... not realy in cleveland though, as i dont think that would work out right.... good luck AI, my heart goes out to this dude, he is servely misunderstaood man...

    Also, seeing him play in charlotte with his old coach i think would be great for him... but only if he is a starter... this guy needs to be a starter in order to truly show what he can do...
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    Christian Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:29 am PST Report Abuse
    Wow... i feel like The kincks was the last chance for him to be a starting player... o well... now he has no choice but to be a role player.... hopefully he can get on a contender and make a difference and show that he is still "The answer"... its a shame i must say.... I truly feel AI's problem is that he needs to be on a team whereas he is the main focus, this is why he thrived in philly for so long.... i just dont think that he is one of those players that can mentally handle being a role player.... that aside i would really love to see him in a heat's uniform playing with wade.... not realy in cleveland though, as i dont think that would work out right.... good luck AI, my heart goes out to this dude, he is servely misunderstaood man...

    Also, seeing him play in charlotte with his old coach i think would be great for him... but only if he is a starter... this guy needs to be a starter in order to truly show what he can do...
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    Karriem Fri Nov 20, 2009 09:13 am PST Report Abuse
    A.I. is 1 of those rare players who just wants to always have a team on his back. These athletes arent born with the mindset to ever be a role player. Thats like telling Jordan, "We think your gettin old, go come of the bench and help the team". Players like that can just turn a switch on and say Now IM a role player. I believe that A.I. can still lead a team to the playoffs. He just hasnt been on the rite tean to do so. They wanted him to be a role player in Denver, and Detriot. And I Sumthing like a role player in Memphis. The Knicks is a good fit for him to show if he does or if h doesnt still have his All Star game. The knicks have nothing. But atleast they can have a chance with Iverson. People are just debating if Iverson still has the All Star game. How would we know if all the teams that he's on wants him to be a role player???
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    ralph Fri Nov 20, 2009 05:39 am PST Report Abuse
    Why is Lebron called king james???
    he has'nt proved anything yet!!!

    maybe king of losers!!! =)
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    Stephen M Fri Nov 20, 2009 02:21 am PST Report Abuse
    I think AI's perfect record of making his team worse over the last several years would be in serious jeapordy if he were to sign with NY.
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    joel p Thu Nov 19, 2009 08:11 pm PST Report Abuse
    jordan is the greatest of alltime. will lebron pass him? mabey... ask me in ten years and then if he has 6 championships and 6 championship mvps, 9 all defense team, 1 defensive player of the year(while leading the league in scoring), 5 mvp honors. then mabey. lebron is better than jordan and kobe were at the age of 24 but right now he has no rings and has not proven to be the all around leadser and player jordan was over his career.. the only reason he didnt win 8 straight is because he played baseball
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    Joshua Thu Nov 19, 2009 07:35 pm PST Report Abuse
    iverson should be picked up by orlando, since nelson is out for 6 weeks..and iverson would be playing for a championship calliber team. its the best fit
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    greenberetranger Wed Nov 18, 2009 09:38 pm PST Report Abuse
    Mr. Logic, did you not post the exact same comment 14 or so hours ago? LeBron is better than Jordan? In which alternate reality does that even come close? Does anyone out there understand Basketball in it's fundamental, non-gangster, non-materialistic form? Jordan was a 2 Guard. LeBron is at best a Small forward who, (trust me, he would love to be a guard), wants to play every position on the floor-oh wait, Magic did that in 1980 and won the Finals MVP and the title.
    I am not saying this reporter is unbiased or objective, however, Mr. James is no KING, nor is he the best player to ever walk on a court. He is not even close yet. Maybe with some maturing and some good coaching he can reach his full potential, but that occurs, all conversations and comparisons to Mr. Jordan are speculative at best and folly at worse. Yes, Michael had Pippen, but all great winners rely on others to reach the plateau of greatness, thus, KING JAMES needs to re-evaluate his priorities and stop worrying about making statements in the press and making them on the court when it really counts. I think he would do much better in the Western Conference, but that is just an opinion. He needs a James Worthy, a Clyde Drexler, and even a little bit of Moses Malone to help him get that coveted ring he wants. But the number on his jersey is irrelevant to that pursuit, as is retiring Michael Jordan's league-wide.
    If you say MJ was so overrated and that James is so much better, then why is James paying homage to Jordan and not the other way around? Pretty simple answer, Kings are either crowned or steal the throne. The Throne is vacant right now and neither Kobe, nor Wade or anyone person has yet to ear the right to sit on a throne in a league so filled with great players. I think Duncan and Garnett, and even the likes of that Howard guy would say so as well. Nice to hear you are passionate about James, but in truth, he is still only human and he is NO KING.
    Jordan is not royalty either, but he does have Hall of Fame credentials as do so many others that came before him and who even play now. James will simply have to wait in line to see if anyone in the real world anoints him King... Not likely in this lifetime...
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    John Wed Nov 18, 2009 06:53 pm PST Report Abuse
    Litke
    You are a Jordan fan I see. King james is so much better than Jordan it stinks. In the NBA today the young players are not afraid of super stars, and when Mike was playing most players in the NBA would let mike do what ever he wanted to-- if he were playing now he would have to come with it, like James and Kobe who would run circles around Jordan. Take golf for example when Jack, Arnold, Player, and Trevino were playing there was only 30 players on tour, now Tiger and Phil number one and two players on tour today have 90 players that can win on any given day, no disrespect to the champions of the past, so don't give me that crap about Jordan being the greatest of all times. Jordan was a great player in his day but don't lie he was and is not the best player of all times. What about Magic, Bird, the doctor Julius Ervin, Kareem, and the list goes on, you must be from Chicago.
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    Jason C-4.0 Wed Nov 18, 2009 06:06 pm PST Report Abuse
    Lebron is the 2nd best player in the game right now (soon to be the best whenever Kobe loses a step).

    If he wants to make the suggestion that Jordan's number should be retired then he's earned that right. If anybody is entitled to his own opinion about basketball, I'd think it would be him.

    Referencing a coach (Stan Van Gundy)who basically threw away the finals last year by giving Jameer Nelson starter minutes after he hadn't played for 5 months doesn't really do much to establish your point.

    Who is Jim Litke???

    Answer: Some guy trying to get famous by trashing Lebron.
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    Wed Nov 18, 2009 01:00 pm PST Report Abuse
    icommentfair, there will always be some stupid posts, but your comment is the worst. it's a pretty pathetic attempt at insulting someone that failed miserably that you probably wouldn't ever dare say to someone's actual face.
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    greenberetranger Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:51 pm PST Report Abuse
    Number 42: Very well said. Michael Jordan was great. He will always be great. I would like to go off basketball to put things into perspective in terms of a famous number never being retired, (even at the cost of a life). Dale Earnhardt was killed. He was great in NASCAR. He was also hated by his peers as well as respected. In fact, he could have been the best ever in terms of titles and other personal accolades if he did not die doing what he loved. But, having said that, his famous number 3 is never going to be retired nor forgotten. It is what truly honors someone to be remembered without having to be retire a number. Michael is Michael. What LeBron articulated was not out of respect for Jordan, but out of spite for not having his face, his image, is supposed Legacy attached to a pair of shoes. It was Wade that Jordan chose and thus, Mr. James wanted to dispose of the number 23, not honor it. It was a childish act that he spun as an act of contrition and respect.
    Yes, each generation has a great player in the NBA, (or players), but the best way to never forget the number worn by Jordan is not to retire it league-wide, but to let young men feel honored to have the honor, not right to wear it.
    I know from what I have watched that LeBron is no fluke, but I can also read between the lines and see how this young man felt jilted and (as the younger generation calls it), "dissed" by Sir Air. What Jordan meant to the NBA is well known to educated basketball followers. Fans come and go, but those who are students of the game know him for what he did, just like we know what Jerry West did for it. So, to honor him is to leave the number on the floor where it belongs. It is retired in UNC and Chicago, in the rarefied Air where it flew highest. That is good enough until the NBA says otherwise.
    I enjoy watching all the young players of today as well as those of the past, but sometimes politicizing something as this has become is just about the money. I hope that means LeBron can just be himself and everybody can stop trying to be like Mike. Hell, even Charlie Sheen doesn't get to have Korean BBQ with Jordan. That is a joke from that Hanes commercial.... Nice post though poster 42. Very well thought out...
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    Exhoopster Wed Nov 18, 2009 11:55 am PST Report Abuse
    Like someone else said, it is difficult to compare eras. Times change, conditions change, playing styles change, etc. That being said, having been around long enough to have witnessed such extraordinary talents as "Pistol Pete", "Dr. J", "Magic", Larry Bird, "MJ" and the current crop of stars like, Kobe, Lebron, D. Wade, I feel quite confident in saying that ALL AROUND the best that I have personally witnessed is Michael Jordan "MJ". He had that combination of great athleticism (explosive first step, ridiculous leaping ability, other wordly hang-time, etc), superb basketball skill (unstoppable scorer, great court vision, highlight reel moves, and a lock-down defender), and those intangibles that you simply can't teach (tenacity, work ethic, insatiable appetite to win, and the ability to elevate his game in crucial moments to levels that NO OTHER player that I have ever seen could get). While others that I named above possess(ed) some or many of these same talents NONE had the WHOLE package like "MJ". Larry and Magic had the basketball skill, great court vision and desire to win that Mike had but lacked his athleticism; "Dr. J" (who is my personal all time favorite player to watch because of the uniqueness of his game in that he could score 40-50 pts or more on a given night and NOT shoot a single jumper because he was so unstoppable and creative off the dribble and in mid-air) had the athleticism and basketball skill but lacked the outside game (jumper) and defensive ability that Mike had; even Lebron and Kobe who possess some of the offensive skills that "MJ" had are clearly NOT the defensive players that he was. I personally have NOT witnessed another player in my lifetime whom I would put ahead of Jordan when it comes to ALL AROUND game. He could drop 50 on you and shut down the player that he was defending for the entire game despite expending the energy that he expended on the offensive end of the court. There is no other player that I can remember who could do that with the regularity that "MJ" could. For that reason (while I can't say he is the "best ever") he is the best that I can say that I have ever seen (hands down).
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    ICommentFair Wed Nov 18, 2009 11:29 am PST Report Abuse
    i cant help it, chino, eat my nuts.
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    ICommentFair Wed Nov 18, 2009 11:23 am PST Report Abuse
    chino is a basketball retard... and an a$$ with no eyes. Lebron averages 30 8 and 8 on any given night and u call that he can "only score"? r u a @#$%!in idiot or what? u r so damn retarded i could basically laugh my heart out. and not to mention MJ who averaged 6 rebs and 6 asts for his career and had 32/8/8 season? do u have an IQ? go to basketballreference.com u fuggin retard and dont ever come back. I could skew ur mama for givin birth to SUCH an idiot
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    Carlo Wed Nov 18, 2009 11:07 am PST Report Abuse
    Jim,

    You sound worse than LeBron. Are you jealous that players revere Jordan and not the guys you grew up watching.

    You come across as bitter and crass and envious. Who are you to tell a fugging world icon like LeBron what to say.

    BTW who are you? I never even heard of you so your opinion doesn't matter.

    That long elaborate haterish column wasn't necessary.

    You basically wanted to trash LeBron today and you chose to make a big deal about his comments.

    What if I write a long a$$ column explaining to you how he has a point does that make his staements any better?

    I doubt so your column won't have the opposite effect now go watch old 50's tapes of Mikan you clown.

    Jordan opened so many doors just as LeBron said.

    If it wasn't for MJ LeBron wouldn't have that 100 mil Nike contract, Kobe wouldn't have his endorsements and neither would D-Wade.
    He made a very good point and I don't wish to point out all the contributions MJ made on and off the floor, but you my foe need to 'Just Shut Up' like Mike and Mike say.
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    Carlo Wed Nov 18, 2009 11:00 am PST Report Abuse
    #12

    Pass that bong this way!

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