Ortiz vs. griffin... lmfao.. wow, thats a worthy ppv. one who runs into jabs and knocks himself the fukk out, and a retread that is famous because of his porn star wife. the only intrigue to this fight is if griffin loses will he run from the cage like a freakin drama queen. 'got fight' ?? i think not.

I'm not going to accuse him of anything, but all I will say is steroid abuse can wreck your immune system.
Of course anyone can be hit with Man-Flu, just 25 days seems a bit excessive to get over it.
My thoughts? Dana desperately needs a megafight to bolster his Jan 2nd card. Silva vs Belfort might attract the purists, but there's still a lot of casual fans that don't like Silva for his Cote and Leites fights, and both Silva nad Belfort destroyed perennial fan favourites Griffin and Franklin.
Although it's Jan 2nd, it's still essentially the UFC's end of year / New Year show and it needed bolstering significantly, especially since the one in Memphis has gone to s**t with Rampage fleeing to hollywood.
So yeah, I think this illness might be a ruse, just like I believe Mir getting 'injured' beofre UFC 98 benefitted UFC 100 greatly.

All the roids break down the immune system. hard to beat the flu bug when you are filled with british dragons finest roids.

"hey guys, i'm going to pull out of this thing."
what tito should have said before it was too late

Who cares if he did roids before (if he did)....he has tested clean in the UFC. If he ever pops positive, then yeah, go ahead and bash away.
It is pretty sad when most of you out there don't buy this flu story for a minute. It is sad, because even though it is most likely true....so much deception and lies go on that make it hard to believe anything.
Does it happen to work out better for the UFC to have this fight on Jan 2? I don't know, won't they then be competing with College football? That doesn't sound smart.
This one I am willing to believe that Brock just got sick, plain and simple. But I would not be surprised to find out something else later...

Nobody has the flu for 25 days!! Even if he does, get the i.v. going and get in the cage! This has cover-up written all over it!

Lesnar finally faces a guy his size and he backs out! What a pus! I bet he is training right now for the Jan fight!

@Nut,
Funny that you just wrote on that topic as I was going to ask you if that was his problem. Thanks!

ahh, tito the latino would have gotten knocked out of his tortilla shell by lesner, hey the guy got sick, sooo what!! if i was lesner, i would still fight the guy just so i could puked in his face!!!

ahh, tito the latino would have gotten knocked out of his tortilla shell by lesner, hey the guy got sick, sooo what!! if i was lesner, i would still fight the guy just so i could puked in his face!!!

Video of Lesnar at a football game last week shows he's far from death's door.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBIgvbt2YQo

just outta curiousity, has any fighter ever been suspended for illegal substance use, by anyone other than the CSAC? i am not saying it hasnt happened, but the only time i hear of fighters being suspended is when California catches them on their tests. does any other state even test? are the tests the same? do they test for the same levels of substance? can anyone tell me some other fighter(s) that have been caught by another state athletic commission?

Thanks for the link KJ. 25 day flu ehh? Looks and sounds fine. Definately calling a big BS on this one. He either couldn't pass the pee quiz, didn't feel he was ready for Carwin or this is another case of the fake Mir injury to boost sales for the UFC 108 card. I feel bad for the people that shelled out for tickets to this sham of a fight card.

Can one catch swine flu from devouring an entire live pig?

Hookers for jesus.. you know it is a tricky deal. the tests are very expensive. and the more thorough, obviously the more expensive. i would guess that a lot of tests are not actually tested in the lab . maybe they make you piss, but dont do the testing. it is prohibitively expensive. there are many common roids out there.. things like nandrolone, testosterone (enthanate, propianate, cypionate to name a few) winstrol, dbol, equipoise, etc etc. they are all very common and easy to test for. but there are many newer drugs that are not even tested for. if they dont have a sample of a drug, they cant test for it. and hgh which is very effective is almost impossible to detect. i wouldnt be surprised if he cycles and then cuts off before a fight and tests himself to see how he comes up prior to the fight. also there are plenty of masking agents you can take. but if he was doing some oil based roids that can lodge in your fat cells for a very long time and give you a positive test, he may have figured he couldn't piss clean by the time the fight came around. if you dont believe he is juiced, i have a used car and a bridge you gotta see.

Oh and one more very important and telling thing .. when you stop cycling, it is very common that you get sick. your body has been dosed with things that are designed to protect it and promote the 'healing' process. when you stop, it is real common to have what some regard as post cycle syndrome . you feel very weak and listless. the best analogy i can give you is when you are cycling, you can do amazing stuff, then when the stuff starts to wear off post cycle, what used to feel like 20 pounds feels like 60, and aerobically you are half of what you were just a month earlier. i would bet he was cycling off to piss clean for his fight and that is what happened. all the stuff talked about in that article screams of post cycle fatigue and funk. that is why people get addicted to the sh$t and it gets a bad rap. because people dont like to have to cycle off and become 'normal' again. all the horror stories you hear in the press about roids are taking the most extreme cases. i know a guy who juices and he got terribly sick. he told the doctor the stuff he was taking and it turned out his liver was tanking from too much advil... advil....... that sh$t will kill your liver quicker than a responsible cycle of roids.

that is why i was wondering, Joe. i think Lesnar is alot like Sherk. though Sherk should have postponed as well cause he failed his test. But it always seems like CSAC is the only ones who catch anyone. I understand fully that the fighters just test themselves to see where they at. i would guess what happened to Sherk was he tested good on his personal test but CSAC tested for a lower amount of substance levels and he popped positive on theirs. Im sure dana white has said repeatedly to lesnar that he CANNOT be caught with roids and that the UFC will distance themselves from any and all allegations.

Nice catch, KJ, though I'm not sure this proves anything. It's not like he said he was on death's door for 25 days...just that he couldn't train properly for 25 days. It's a lot easier to hang out at a football game than to lift, run, drill, and spar for hours on end.
Just the same, Clint...getting an IV might work if you need it once, but you don't want to rely on it for weeks at a time.
Hookers: Bonnar and Parisyan both got caught in Nevada. Alves got caught on diuretics in Nevada. I could probably find more...but I lost my list of MMA busts. Joe could probably help out with more busts out of Nevada.

good that some other states do catch people. i just get so used to see CSAC did this to so n so that i dont realise other states are doing it too.

Hmmm, sorry but you don't have the flu for 25 days. Something else is going.

Having said all that, i'll take a scotch on the rocks. where's allen when you need him?? baternder !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
. csac, nsac maybe have more money to implement a more thorough testing program. ??? plus some roids are just plain stupid to take. nandrolone can give you a dirty piss test for up to 16 months. personally, i would use hgh, and test propianate. it is water based and out of your system much quicker than the oil based testosterone. i heard griffin used extenze for his fight with silva. the guy is confused.

I think if you're suffering badly from the flu, the last thing you would do is spend a lot of time outdoors in the cold at a football game. Or have the lungs to blow the big game horn.